Akl- Meadowbank-Drainlayer needed urgently

**xgnr** · 6th October 2008, 19:56

Hi all

The house at the front has been demolished and the new owner tells me that my water pipe runs through his property. It goes underground and we don't know where it exits the property. I suspect that a trench across the back section is required to locate it.

The Section is going to be dug out to 300mm in a week and I risk having no water if they cut it.

I need someone to locate it (alkathene or whatever) and cut, route a new pipe down the ROW then reconnect. Probably 50m or so. No paving or anything, the section is clear.

The new owner is not being particularly helpful so I have to get this work arranged (at my cost) grrrrr.

Cash job if you like. I will be on the phone in the morning to get underway but if someone has a mate that is reliable then PM me or ring 0275-763-519

This pisses me off

Cheers

Stu

**Mully** · 6th October 2008, 20:10

Do you not have the documents showing where the pipes run??

Check with the council, cos it might be his problem if the pipe already exists on his land (you may have an easement)

**xgnr** · 6th October 2008, 20:16

Originally Posted by Mully

Do you not have the documents showing where the pipes run??

Check with the council, cos it might be his problem if the pipe already exists on his land (you may have an easement)

Yeah thanks. Somehow I doubt it as the services are not marked for anyone around this particular ROW as far as we can tell.

I will try and check tomorrow but the developer probably knows that these are not subject to an easement hence his indifference about my water supply!

Key thing is to get something underway as he is just as likely to cut it and shrug his shoulders. "should" be a simple job eh (tui add coming)

**Mully** · 6th October 2008, 20:23

Seems that you should have an easement for services.

The developer is probably aware but doesnt want to pay for it to be fixed.

Check the title to your place as well. Any easements should be on there, and the LIM, and probably part of the Sale and Purchase agreement.

**xgnr** · 6th October 2008, 20:38

Originally Posted by Mully

Seems that you should have an easement for services.

The developer is probably aware but doesnt want to pay for it to be fixed.

Check the title to your place as well. Any easements should be on there, and the LIM, and probably part of the Sale and Purchase agreement.

Yeah its a bugger alright but gets me is that nothing is broken (yet). He is ripping the land up yet I have to run around getting the pipe moved off his land BEFORE he breaks it grrrrr.

I seriously doubt there is an easement on his property for the pipe. Its a damn weird place for it to be run (across part of his section then appears to then go under my other neighbours driveway before terminating at my place. Some dodgy prick did the plumbing work according the locals so now it all turns to poo.

**Pumba** · 6th October 2008, 20:49

Cant help with the drain layer part of it, but can I ask is your property on a seperate title? or is it a cross lease? Either way even if there has been somthing weird done previous he has no right to cut off your water, I know it is a pain in the arse but my first calls would be to the council to see what info they can provide you with.

**xgnr** · 6th October 2008, 21:03

Originally Posted by Pumba

Cant help with the drain layer part of it, but can I ask is your property on a seperate title? or is it a cross lease? Either way even if there has been somthing weird done previous he has no right to cut off your water, I know it is a pain in the arse but my first calls would be to the council to see what info they can provide you with.

Separate title with a shared ROW for the driveway that four properties use. The water pipe and other utilities "should" have been run down the driveway but who knows what the hell was done. (but we are finding out the hardway now)

Yeah I will call the council tomorrow and see what the situation is. Fukin hate having to drop everything to deal with this sort of stuff just 'cos he has these guys booked in and they are on a tight timeframe!

**Pumba** · 6th October 2008, 21:07

Sounds messy, however not uncommen. Try not to let the guy bully you to much, a few hours on the phone with council, however painfull it will be, might save you a fair but of money

**The Stranger:Me** · 6th October 2008, 21:26

Originally Posted by xgnr

Hi all

The house at the front has been demolished and the new owner tells me that my water pipe runs through his property. It goes underground and we don't know where it exits the property.

There are 2 ways you may locate it.
1) At 3:00am when ambient noise is at it's lowest run every tap in the house then see if you can trace the sound either from the meter up or the house down.
2) If that fails - OK I know I shouldn't say this - divining.
Yes divining.
As a lad I used to wonder why the linesmen would keep brass rods in their kits. When first told I laughed like fuck and thought they were yanking my chain. I have seen it work many times and have used it many times too. We wouldn't always locate the cable, you wouldn't know until you dug, but would always locate something, often a water pipe.

So ok ridicule away.

**xgnr** · 7th October 2008, 07:02

Originally Posted by Pumba

Sounds messy, however not uncommen. Try not to let the guy bully you to much, a few hours on the phone with council, however painfull it will be, might save you a fair but of money

Thanks for the advice. Will get on the blower today... just hope they are a bit more responsive than most of the local/central govt orgs in their responses.

Cheers

Stu

**xgnr** · 7th October 2008, 07:03

Originally Posted by The Stranger

There are 2 ways you may locate it.
1) At 3:00am when ambient noise is at it's lowest run every tap in the house then see if you can trace the sound either from the meter up or the house down.
2) If that fails - OK I know I shouldn't say this - divining.
Yes divining.
As a lad I used to wonder why the linesmen would keep brass rods in their kits. When first told I laughed like fuck and thought they were yanking my chain. I have seen it work many times and have used it many times too. We wouldn't always locate the cable, you wouldn't know until you dug, but would always locate something, often a water pipe.

So ok ridicule away.

Might just try 1)... as to 2) hmmmm interesting but wouldnt know where to start

Cheers

stu

**Nasty** · 7th October 2008, 07:07

Originally Posted by xgnr

Might just try 1)... as to 2) hmmmm interesting but wouldnt know where to start

Cheers

stu

Heya

Our main water pipe had a leak in it last week .. somewhere underground .. that is all we knew.

The plumber came along and did the following:

Cut the old pipe where it came into the house
Laid a new pipe (top of ground one)
left the old one where it was .. as it ain't used anymore ...

This is one of the things they are doing now since digging out pipes is truely considered a waste of money.

**The Stranger:Me** · 7th October 2008, 07:29

Originally Posted by xgnr

Might just try 1)... as to 2) hmmmm interesting but wouldnt know where to start

Cheers

stu

If you are stuck, I'm happy to pop over and give you a laugh.

**sinfull** · 7th October 2008, 07:29

If the water runs across his land it might not be the only service that does so !
I'd be talking to a lawyer ! or at the least your insurance company !
Overhead or underground power ? Was your house there before or after the front house ?
Go take a box of piss to a neighbour and ask them, if the shit does hit the fan (scuse the pun) if you can hook water up to their tap, power (for light and fridge freezer etc

**xgnr** · 7th October 2008, 07:42

Originally Posted by Nasty

Heya

Our main water pipe had a leak in it last week .. somewhere underground .. that is all we knew.

The plumber came along and did the following:

Cut the old pipe where it came into the house
Laid a new pipe (top of ground one)
left the old one where it was .. as it ain't used anymore ...

This is one of the things they are doing now since digging out pipes is truely considered a waste of money.

yeah same idea. Cut it off at both ends and relay a new one. The challenge is finding one of the ends