True Production Racing series

[Shaun]

would suspension be modified as per rider weight etc?

Fork Springs and oil Change only in the front end!

Rear spring for rider weight

All using the same brand Shock- As they come direct from the Factory STD!

[Robert Taylor]

wow, cheap racing!! level playing field
im there!

Not quite, and I dont say this in any way that means to steal Shauns fire. Archer bought up a good point about suspension alterations for heavier riders, who would indeed be disadvantaged, as would very light riders. And its not a true production series because its one make. There will be fish-hooks / problems and I cannot see how it will pay its way and make a profit, even only in as much as Shaun / any other financial partners not having to dip into their own pockets any further.
If anything it could in part be a ''home'' for those who either deride production racing ( as it neccessarily is ) or simply cannot afford to partake. That is always in part why other formula exist!!! It certainly will emphasise the limitations of production road going bikes.
But that is not to take anything away from the author of this proposal, if he can make it work and attract more people to this great sport then in all fairness I can only wish it the very best.

[Robert Taylor]

Fork Springs and oil Change only in the front end!

Rear spring for rider weight

All using the same brand Shock- As they come direct from the Factory STD!

I see posts overlapped so that answers that question very well

[GSVR]

The best thing a heavier rider could do if they where committed was go on a diet. After all even if the suspension was made stiffer they would still be dissavantaged by the power to weight ratio.

For a lighter rider any dissavantage would help to balance out the advantage of having a better power to weight ratio.

How does one get on in an endurance race if your co-rider is a fat bastard and your a midget?

[Robert Taylor]

The best thing a heavier rider could do if they where committed was go on a diet. After all even if the suspension was made stiffer they would still be dissavantaged by the power to weight ratio.

For a lighter rider any dissavantage would help to balance out the advantage of having a better power to weight ratio.

How does one get on in an endurance race if you co rider is a fat bastard and your a midget?

And there are light guys who would like to put on weight but their metabolism wont let it happen. Your statement is a bit unfair to those that are naturally big boned and tall. That is why at minimum spring options be available to level the playing field. Something that is dear to your heart.

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

Best we judge the proposal when all details are announced, aplications invited. But so far, sounds good

[Shaun]

Best we judge the proposal when all details are announced, aplications invited. But so far, sounds good

Thanks.

I have committed $250 K to this buisness so far, and over the next 6 weeks, another $50K is going in to it I got the money easy, so if it turns pear shape on me ( Which I knw it will not!) O well, back to working for the man again! Pounds to Dollars is great!

I thought it was time to PUT up or SHUT up

And going fast and doing skids on biks is still my bigest passion in life, apart from my Wife and Daughter and step kids FAMILY

[Shaun]

20 bikes means fullish grids at every meeting.
-Something I wondered Shaun. What if someone already owns one of these bikes or chooses to buy one rather than leasing?

It Might be possible to BUY one BUT


Moto-Dynamix would need to have it in there possesion, to Gaurantee NO Cheating

So best to just lease one of my packages, then it is 100% a fair fight- all is even.

[Shaun]

What size bike Shaun?
Looking for sponsors?

Size and Brand will be announced next month mate, when all details are finalised.

Re Sponsors

When the full detailed plan is released later next month, it will be done with a logo promotion mock fairing spaces for sale for x amount of $ for x amount f area.

The one Major company I have behind me with this project, is an International company, so I believe the grid is going to be pretty full of Foriegn riders alone, let alone the Kiwi group! from the media tool with this Int Company.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Very interested to hear what kind of bikes you have lined up for this

[GSVR]

And there are light guys who would like to put on weight but their metabolism wont let it happen. Your statement is a bit unfair to those that are naturally big boned and tall. That is why at minimum spring options be available to level the playing field. Something that is dear to your heart.

Who knows maybe the bikes will suit heavier/taller riders.

You didn't answer the most important part of my post!

What would you do to set up a bike for an event where a very light rider and a very heavy rider had to share the same bike?

this actually happens club racing too when riders share a bike by entering into different classes.

[roogazza]

Hope everyone gets behind it.

Let's see who really is fast!!

Pete

+1 on that Pete. Production racing is what got NZ racing on the map.
I'm sure its the way forward, if we are ever to get back where we were years ago ? I have very fond memories of 30 (and more) RD Yamahas going at it !

Really hope this works for you Shaun. Gaz.

[wharfy]

I hope this takes off, "one class" racing is a very good way of identifying and developing talent. It is also a place where people of modest ability and means (like myself) can enter a competition. I for one will be VERY interested in this !!!

[Tony.OK]

I'm all for it................as long as its not another class altogether that reduces race laps even further.
Good luck Shaun

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not quite, and I dont say this in any way that means to steal Shauns fire. Archer bought up a good point about suspension alterations for heavier riders, who would indeed be disadvantaged, as would very light riders. And its not a true production series because its one make. There will be fish-hooks / problems and I cannot see how it will pay its way and make a profit, even only in as much as Shaun / any other financial partners not having to dip into their own pockets any further.
If anything it could in part be a ''home'' for those who either deride production racing ( as it neccessarily is ) or simply cannot afford to partake. That is always in part why other formula exist!!! It certainly will emphasise the limitations of production road going bikes.
But that is not to take anything away from the author of this proposal, if he can make it work and attract more people to this great sport then in all fairness I can only wish it the very best.

I think you're missing the main point of 'Production Racing' or 'One Make Racing'. That being the ability of ANY rider to ride what they HAVE at their disposal better than the next person. Sure bigger riders suffer a power to weight disadvantage...but smaller riders struggle to change direction as quickly as a bigger built rider. All swings and roundabouts.

And the bit about "It certainly will emphasise the limitations of production going road bikes"?????

So fucking what? It's not about how good the bikes are as race bikes. It's about how good someone can ride the thing.

I raced 883 Harleys for a couple of years. And as a race bike...they made great boat anchors. BUT...the racing was fantastic fun and hard work. The cream still rose to the top...Brett Richmond...Bruce Anstey...Simon Turner and the late Robert Holden. It matters not what you're racing. You could have 30 Honda RS250's and it'd be the same. Fun and frantic.

Who knows maybe the bikes will suit heavier/taller riders.

You didn't answer the most important part of my post!

What would you do to set up a bike for an event where a very light rider and a very heavy rider had to share the same bike?

this actually happens club racing too when riders share a bike by entering into different classes.

Set the bike up as well as you can within the limitations it has. Then ride around whatever limitations you can't remove through setup.

+1 on that Pete. Production racing is what got NZ racing on the map.
I'm sure its the way forward, if we are ever to get back where we were years ago ? I have very fond memories of 30 (and more) RD Yamahas going at it !

Really hope this works for you Shaun. Gaz.

Fucking oath it is.

James Toseland came from GB500 racing did he not? Could you imagine a worse 'race bike'? (Ok...apart from an 883)See point 1!!!