True Production Racing series

[boomer]

You're so full of shit, your eyes are brown.

and what the fuck would you know? You've entered one clubmans meet and now you're a full blow racer with years of experience...!

lmfao.

and as for being so full of shit.. your clothes wibble wobble when you move... is that fat or shit?

[jrandom]

and what the fuck would you know? You've entered one clubmans meet and now you're a full blow racer with years of experience...!

But I'm still not wrong hey...

[boomer]

But I'm still not wrong hey...

of course you're not.. bitch's never are .. hey !

[jrandom]

of course you're not...

You're a sweetheart.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Get a room!

[boomer]

Get a room!

ok.. can we get 2 for 1... you'll be needing one huh Pete?

[CHOPPA]

You might as well be mate. After all...you 'judged' me and said it was people like me that are the problem...or some such shit. Then you judged that me and the pieces of crap I'd like to see raced belong at "Track days".

My answer to you was (originally)...how come if you're so clever...? You didn't answer the question mate!? So go back...have a look at the questions I asked you about 'Production racing' (because that IS what this is all about right?).

Because if you knew ANYTHING about NZ road racing...you'd know that most of the truly successful road racers we've produced came through the ranks of PRODUCTION RACING.

The Poms might even jog your memory a bit for you if you ask your famous mates. They may've been at Donington when Simon Crafar (ex 250 proddie) beat a certain Mick Doohan by 11 seconds.

Doubt Simon would tell you they only belong at 'track days'.

Dork.

Wouldnt our production superbike and sport production classes all be classed as proddie racing?? There all production bikes with a few mods, most the mods on the bikes are mods you see on any road riders bikes...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wouldnt our production superbike and sport production classes all be classed as proddie racing?? There all production bikes with a few mods, most the mods on the bikes are mods you see on any road riders bikes...

To a certain extent...sure! But at the same time..they're both out of reach finacially for a lot of people that may well have a huge amount of talent.

I have no problem with those classes whatsoever...in fact...we need them.

[Robert Taylor]

And now we can all get some sleep.

And your point is?

[jrandom]

And your point is?

That you finally gave in and admitted that 'production' racing might just be a good idea.

[Mishy]

Have you tried to set one of those bikes up?? NO you haven't. They struggled with it in WSS. MSS Kawasaki had huge troubles trying to get their SSP 600 to behave. Everyone around the world was in the same boat. It was just one of those bikes.

Interesting you should say that, and you would have had a pretty good look at Jay's bke last year too ( if I remember correctly)

[Robert Taylor]

That you finally gave in and admitted that 'production' racing might just be a good idea.

Not as a wholesale replacement no. As a feeder class that puts bums on seats yes, but personally I dont think it should be a one make / model class ( sorry Shaun )
And its not surprising to see so much emotive tall poppy syndrome with terms such as ''rich pricks'' etc. Maybe a lot of those so called ''rich pricks'' worked really hard to become same. That is the sort of slagging / bleating mentality that really disturbs me. Especially when ''rich pricks'' help to fund other peoples racing, they should be welcomed, not despised.

[jrandom]

Not as a wholesale replacement no. As a feeder class that puts bums on seats yes, but personally I dont think it should be a one make / model class ( sorry Shaun )

I agree with you on both those points.

And its not surprising to see so much emotive tall poppy syndrome with terms such as ''rich pricks'' etc.

Yes, I don't like hearing those words used, either.

I personally have no emotional issues around the subject, and the fact is, I myself probably could run a competitive machine under the current formula rules if I decided it was a priority for me. If I decided it was a priority.

But I would actually prefer to race a stock machine against other stock machines. Limited setup twiddling, limited power tuning, just motorcycles and riders, and the riders who really shine get to consider moving to the classes that involve more dedication and funding, while the others get a straightforward chance at participating in the best fun you can have with your pants on.

Because, in the end, isn't that what it's all about?

[Ocean1]

Because, in the end, isn't that what it's all about?

No. It's about who's a clever bastard wot can tweak the bejeezuz out of his bike AND herd it around the track better than everyone else. HIS bike.


Or it orta be.

[puddytat]

But I would actually prefer to race a stock machine against other stock machines. Limited setup twiddling, limited power tuning, just motorcycles and riders, and the riders who really shine get to consider moving to the classes that involve more dedication and funding, while the others get a straightforward chance at participating in the best fun you can have with your pants on.

Because, in the end, isn't that what it's all about?

Yup....'cause you can actually race that bike that was (& maybe still is) your roadbike.
They're thinkin' 6 hundies in the Moto GP circus...MMMMMmmmm what are the proddies going to be like in a few years