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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    Your still a twit Dan...give yourself a few years in racing...and you will have a better formed opinion!!
    Oh, probably.

    I'm in a fairly good mood about the necessity of forming it, mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoot_6R View Post
    That was Supersport not Superstock which my team was in. Good old Glen cleaned up in Supersport he was awesome to watch. He's got a good ride next year on a superbike for HM Plant with Josh Brookes
    True, my bad!

    Hey, ask Nick if he has a SB for me for the TT
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    [QUOTE=Ocean1;1837964]How repeatable are dynos, results from one to another?

    The point is not the number produced who cares is all the bikes make 180 Zogs each at invercargill and 160 zogs each at timaru. What you are looking for is when 9 bikes make 160 zogs today and one bike makes 175 zogs. You then have a reason to go looking a lot more. They will also show up close ratio gear boxes easily. It is just a simple way to make sure of an fairer playing feild. And even the worst computer controlled dynos can cope with reasonable repeatability over the 30-45 mins it would take to Dyno a feild of bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Some of those changes came in fairly big lumps dude. Disk brakes, for example did not gradually morf from drums. .
    "Modern" disk brakes have been around in cars since the 50's I think the Honda 750 /4 was the bike to use them in 1969 ?
    And the early ones were not much of an improvement (if any) as far as performance was concerned over good drums.
    This is probably not actually relevant to this thread but mildly interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    I'm in a fairly good mood about the necessity of forming it, mind you.

    Lol...I'm please dan.
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    Given the short comings of my riding style, it doesn't matter what I'm riding till I've got my shit in one sock.

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    [QUOTE=Ozzy27;1838309]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    How repeatable are dynos, results from one to another?

    The point is not the number produced who cares is all the bikes make 180 Zogs each . . . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy27 View Post
    The point is not the number produced who cares is all the bikes make 180 Zogs each at invercargill and 160 zogs each at timaru. What you are looking for is when 9 bikes make 160 zogs today and one bike makes 175 zogs. You then have a reason to go looking a lot more. They will also show up close ratio gear boxes easily. It is just a simple way to make sure of an fairer playing feild. And even the worst computer controlled dynos can cope with reasonable repeatability over the 30-45 mins it would take to Dyno a feild of bikes.
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    Yeah, I understand. But if you define maximum HP you're removing a lot of the skill in the game dude.

    What I was sorta suggesting was: "Bikes of this class at the last meeting here used an average of 3.22 Litres of control fuel. Here's your 3.23 Litres, good luck"
    See, fussy tuning will pay dividends but wacking on a disguised oversized carb and "correcting" that wee head distortion by 0.5mm ain't going to work. If you manage to wring an extra 15 zogs outa yer bike AND still cross the finish line you fucking deserve to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    True, my bad!

    Hey, ask Nick if he has a SB for me for the TT
    You will have to compete with Ryan Farquar for that one Shaun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Yeah, I understand. But if you define maximum HP you're removing a lot of the skill in the game dude.

    What I was sorta suggesting was: "Bikes of this class at the last meeting here used an average of 3.22 Litres of control fuel. Here's your 3.23 Litres, good luck"
    See, fussy tuning will pay dividends but wacking on a disguised oversized carb and "correcting" that wee head distortion by 0.5mm ain't going to work. If you manage to wring an extra 15 zogs outa yer bike AND still cross the finish line you fucking deserve to win.
    It's one thing to limit fuel in a 45 minute MotoGP race with their telemetry and ability to montor fuel useage and vary engine mapping on the fly, but it's a bit more problematic for a 10 minute dash such as we have here for club meetings on relatively basic machinery.

    It means more people are required to get fuel to the track, ensure tanks are completely empty, very accurately distribute the fuel, seal tanks etc and more testing/tuning for the competitors. How do you allow for varying atmospheric conditions? I can see it being a logistical nightmare for our largely volounteer club/National resources.

    There's also the safety issue of a bikes hammering along at near top speed on the last lap/corner and having the bike in front of a pack running outta fuel.....nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoot_6R View Post
    You will have to compete with Ryan Farquar for that one Shaun.

    go for it man, Ryan is very good, I really like his attitude
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    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=87503

    Link to another thread on the proposed production racing series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoot_6R View Post
    You will have to compete with Ryan Farquar for that one Shaun.
    My money is on the angry ginga....hook into 'im Shaun you can take the bugger! If you can shake off an argument with a dry stone wall he doesn't stand a chance.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    ...It was such a good idea...
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