Wet/dry traction comparisons

[scroter]

if you cant feel whats going on with your bike then your probably going too fast wet or dry, maybe not for the bike, maybe not for the tyres but definitly for you, no offence intended just a plain fact that most people think too hard about falling off in the wet and forget to relax and listen to how the bike is reacting. the biggest difference I find in the wet is that the grip levels can change from bad to worse and back again quite quickly in the wet where they can remian quite constant in the dry. survival instinct is a good thing but slow down and listen to the feedback your bike is giving you. safe riding.

[racefactory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OOpE7fBw28 - check out THIS. A guy going hard with knee down in the rain WITH A PILLION also with knee down.

So i guess you can still get your knee down if you really want! How the fuck though? Even when you see wet races they somtimes very seldom get their knee down like that even with hardcore wet tyres.

I really want to know what does it feel like when your at maximum lean in the wet?? Obviously in dry tyres are more than capable of angles past footpeg scraping, but in the wet how do you know when you are at the point where it will slip if you lean further?

[sharky]

In that clip you notice the bike is not leant over very far at all, they're just hanging off like monkeys.

[racefactory]

In that clip you notice the bike is not leant over very far at all, they're just hanging off like monkeys.

I know what you mean at the latter section of the video mate but the bike is way cranked over for wet conditions. Granted at the end the pillion is hanging off big time but that is some serious lean still... at the begginning he's hanging off as much as anyone cornering that quickly.

[racefactory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9DOJQyW00 Also the same guy doing it on an SV650.... fucking good wet skills...

[sugilite:Me]

Wow, do you guys have gyroscopes on your bikes or what?

Yes, a road in perfect condition offers more grip than many would suspect. However, a wet road can hide a lot of dangerous slippery shit too...so prob best to keep this stuff to theory sessions me thinks.

I've raced many years at fickle weather manfield and I do know that the most dangerous time is when it has just started to rain, and the drops of water are beginning to join up on the way to making the surface fully wet...watch out!!!! (esp on hotmix surfaces) If the back end steps out in these conditions, you seldom get it back.