I want to become a bucketeer

[skidMark]

so thats $1100 for the bike so far
have you got 17" wheels and slick yet ????
and what about that pipe that will make the bike realy go
or
or
or

you wait
my first bucket cost me $100
leathers where $450 (they where like new)
helmit $260 wasent alowed to get a cheap one
boots $240 new
gloves free destoyed them new ones $50
first set of tires $280 + rims to fit (18" tt900's new)
engine rebuild $1400 once it was going right
17 rims $400
slicks $150
wets and extra rims $????
new tail + clipons + foot pegs bracing frame
+ exaust (its a 2 smoker)$lots
+
+
+ 4th year racing

$2000 was just an idear of what is neaded to get a good FAST bucket

LOL 1400 for an engine rebuid?

its called a spanner and an arm mate!

[all4A50s]

so thats $1100 for the bike so far
have you got 17" wheels and slick yet ????
and what about that pipe that will make the bike realy go
or
or
or

you wait
my first bucket cost me $100
leathers where $450 (they where like new)
helmit $260 wasent alowed to get a cheap one
boots $240 new
gloves free destoyed them new ones $50
first set of tires $280 + rims to fit (18" tt900's new)
engine rebuild $1400 once it was going right
17 rims $400
slicks $150
wets and extra rims $????
new tail + clipons + foot pegs bracing frame
+ exaust (its a 2 smoker)$lots
+
+
+ 4th year racing

$2000 was just an idear of what is neaded to get a good FAST bucket

personally don't see the need for slick and wets when a decent set of radials will do for both. My set have barely been broken in and have done me well for most of the year. Hey remember this is a 50 not a 500.

I'm also a believer in the philosophy of the original bucket builders and building it yourself.

[TZ350]

Things you can't do with a spanner.

Buy spare parts and specialist machining.

These are 25-30 year old motors and appreciate a freshen up.

Cut inlet side crank web to 45 degrees $45
Bore crank pin holes to 22mm $160
Rebore cylinder $85
New Piston Assembly, gaskets & oil seals $160
New Conrod assembly $185
Rebuild gearbox/clutch $95
Weld & machine head $200
Skim & "O" ring barrel $95
KX80 ignition $275
RG250 chamber $65
Jets $35

That's about $1400 in engine bits alone.

Now a spanner and a bit of arm to assemble it all.

Four seasons, three "2 Hours" and several GP's and numerous races. Without any problems with any of the bikes. One of which ridden by Keith Biddel came third in last years 2 hour and won the last race at Taupo.

You don't have to spend this sort of money and most don't but we have, and had a good trouble free run for our $$$.

But the trouble and $$$ make an FXR look real attractive.

I got into GP125's because a friend had one.

And now we have too much development time and money invested to switch and besides we just love fiddling with them.

[TZ350]

personally don't see the need for slick and wets when a decent set of radials will do for both. My set have barely been broken in and have done me well for most of the year. Hey remember this is a 50 not a 500.

I'm also a believer in the philosophy of the original bucket builders and building it yourself.

We ran TT900GP's on my GP125 for the first few seasons and found the bike chattered badly when pressed hard in the corners. The chattering was so sever that on one occasion the handle bars were bent and I realy hurt my back from the violence of it.

With no other changes the chatter problem disappeared when we changed to slicks. I think the tread blocks of the treaded tires had a rippling effect in the corners and the frequency of it upset the suspension causing a violent slip grip effect. Slicks with their smooth tread do not do this.

We also found slicks to be better in the rain than TT900GP's

But for all that I have been beaten many times by others using street tires, they were better riders on the day.

[Buckets4Me]

ye like F5Dave on his slick 50 lol

and ye it's a 50 not a 500

grip not speed is what makes them fast

all the frount runners have slicks
and most of them have wets as well
but if you can do it on radials go for it
I take my hat off to you

and just like the buckets of old use the BEST tire you can get
it's where you get the best return for you'r money I recon

[all4A50s]

I can understand the larger bikes running slicks, but on a 50 bucket. Maybe this is where having a classic/fun bucket class would help. Where only technology 30 years or older is allowed.

[all4A50s]

Things you can't do with a spanner.

Buy spare parts and specialist machining.

These are 25-30 year old motors and appreciate a freshen up.

Cut inlet side crank web to 45 degrees $45
Bore crank pin holes to 22mm $160
Rebore cylinder $85
New Piston Assembly, gaskets & oil seals $160
New Conrod assembly $185
Rebuild gearbox/clutch $95
Weld & machine head $200
Skim & "O" ring barrel $95
KX80 ignition $275
RG250 chamber $65
Jets $35

That's about $1400 in engine bits alone.

Now a spanner and a bit of arm to assemble it all.

Four seasons, three "2 Hours" and several GP's and numerous races. Without any problems with any of the bikes. One of which ridden by Keith Biddel came third in last years 2 hour and won the last race at Taupo.

You don't have to spend this sort of money and most don't but we have, and had a good trouble free run for our $$$.

But the trouble and $$$ make an FXR look real attractive.

I got into GP125's because a friend had one.

And now we have too much development time and money invested to switch and besides we just love fiddling with them.

And as to spending this much... Would wrecking an old another bike for parts work out cheaper?

[Buckets4Me]

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



because you still have to do it all again

[Buckets4Me]

you want fast reliable engines not second hand junk

you do it right and you dont have to touch it again

plus you can spend more than that on a pushbike
Cousin has a race puchbike costing 12k and he still hase to peddle it
mountain bike are around 1-3k for a starter good bike

so the bucket is cheap for 2k and you usualy take a few years to spend that


show me a fast and I mean FAST bucket that dosent have slick and 2k spent on it
It would have to be second hand not owner built
or the owner hase built a few of them and now knows what to do cheap
I recon you could get an fxr for under 2k going fast
but you still need good tires brakes and a reliable engine
so if you are lucky to get a fxr for under 1k then rims and tires for another $500
you are still getting close

[glice]

for now I just want to spend as little as possible, but I think a good set of tires, and pulling everything un-wanted off it will be about as far as my race preperation will be right now.
that fxr website is pretty good, how many people have tried those performance engine parts? is it still reliable?

[Buckets4Me]

thats a jolly good start

but to get a decent set of tires on an old bike you need wider rims

the fxr is a lot easier to get tires for

just upgrade as you get faster and need better things

[TZ350]

I can understand the larger bikes running slicks, but on a 50 bucket. Maybe this is where having a classic/fun bucket class would help. Where only technology 30 years or older is allowed.

What about a pre82 bucket class like they have for Post Classics? my bike allready complys and has been timed with Joe Mead piloting it at 30.5sec anticlockwise at Mt Wellington.

I have kept it pre82 compliant just in case Post Classics run a tiddler class. Have clocked the GP at a bit over 90mph at Pukekohe. A faring might have helped it to top the Ton. My Son ran it ran all day, round and round at 11,500rpm absolutly screeming its nuts off and it held together.

Roll on Taupo.

[speedpro]

That's one way of getting rid of those pesky FXRs. Most buckets are pre-82 aren't they?

[Buckets4Me]

pre 72

it was runnign at around 158 k/h before the bracking point and the speedo melting
the pickup moved and was rubbing against the tire

down the frount strait it was reading 300 k\h I wish

[glice]

whats the story with exahasts? can I just hack off the muffler till I can do something better?