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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Yeah, we leave all the doors open in a vane attempt to heat the house. I suppose the current fire and fans rig does make a difference but it's certainly not enough to allow sitting around in a t shirt.
    I've given up on heating the whole house - but with only two of us we can do that. We just heat the room(s) we use.

    From what you've said about your situation I suspect a fire and rebuild would give the best results....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I've given up on heating the whole house - but with only two of us we can do that. We just heat the room(s) we use.

    From what you've said about your situation I suspect a fire and rebuild would give the best results....
    LOL, it has cropped up numerous times in conversation..... It's just 2 of us as well and overall it's liveable, lived in colder houses in colder climates but I'm getting soft in my dotage.

    The house is getting warmer as each year passes, the efforts we put in to seem to make a difference.

    Vapour barrier layer under about 60% of the house, draft exclusion where we can, air circulation etc.

    Apart from heat, dehumidifying etc we intend digging a deep, lined, drainage channel along the side of the house which abutts a permanently wet clay bank. That should help, too. Bit by bit.

    I've also thought of pulling the house down and using the money from the native timber to buy a really nice caravan. But the nails won't come out.
    Manopausal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Yeah, we leave all the doors open in a vane attempt to heat the house. I suppose the current fire and fans rig does make a difference but it's certainly not enough to allow sitting around in a t shirt.
    i see what you did there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I've given up on heating the whole house - but with only two of us we can do that. We just heat the room(s) we use.

    From what you've said about your situation I suspect a fire and rebuild would give the best results....
    Heat transfers are a very tricky. You need to calculate static pressure and flow rates. Once that's done, a good heat source can be spread throughout.

    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    LOL, it has cropped up numerous times in conversation..... It's just 2 of us as well and overall it's liveable, lived in colder houses in colder climates but I'm getting soft in my dotage.

    The house is getting warmer as each year passes, the efforts we put in to seem to make a difference.

    Vapour barrier layer under about 60% of the house, draft exclusion where we can, air circulation etc.

    Apart from heat, dehumidifying etc we intend digging a deep, lined, drainage channel along the side of the house which abutts a permanently wet clay bank. That should help, too. Bit by bit.

    I've also thought of pulling the house down and using the money from the native timber to buy a really nice caravan. But the nails won't come out.
    If you're gonna do any renovation work, get every mother fucker that sells any heating/ventilation through to quote. Get plans for each to draw what they intend on a set. Then work it out from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Heat transfers are a very tricky. You need to calculate static pressure and flow rates. Once that's done, a good heat source can be spread throughout.


    If you're gonna do any renovation work, get every mother fucker that sells any heating/ventilation through to quote. Get plans for each to draw what they intend on a set. Then work it out from there.
    Whats your number?

    Your a bit far away but that is good advice. At least I would have a starting point for research and making an informed choice.

    Our cottage is historically listed, not that that means much, but we want to consider the health of the house as well as our own. Bit of an icon in the community for a few generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post

    Apart from heat, dehumidifying etc we intend digging a deep, lined, drainage channel along the side of the house which abutts a permanently wet clay bank. That should help, too. Bit by bit.
    Years ago I had a little place on a riverbank, the water table was about 200mm below ground surface & it was always damp under the house.
    I crawled under & rolled out black polythene with a good overlap over the entire clay surface under the house, cutting it in around the piles.
    It helped a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Whats your number?

    Your a bit far away but that is good advice.
    The dude has done a 14 hour round trip to do one for me & is going to do a 5 hour round trip to do another for me this weekend.
    Board & lodgings, plus plenty of food & beer seem to be key here.
    Bringing his warpig on the trailer & doing multiple rolling burn outs on it past our local was just a bonus really.

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    I can get work enough anywhere in the north island to make a trip worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    LOL, it has cropped up numerous times in conversation..... It's just 2 of us as well and overall it's liveable, lived in colder houses in colder climates but I'm getting soft in my dotage.

    The house is getting warmer as each year passes, the efforts we put in to seem to make a difference.

    Vapour barrier layer under about 60% of the house, draft exclusion where we can, air circulation etc.

    Apart from heat, dehumidifying etc we intend digging a deep, lined, drainage channel along the side of the house which abutts a permanently wet clay bank. That should help, too. Bit by bit.

    I've also thought of pulling the house down and using the money from the native timber to buy a really nice caravan. But the nails won't come out.
    I once looked at buying a house up the valley a way, its core had been a hunting lodge way back, when it was a day's tramp to get from Wellington to mid Hutt valley. The studs were 4"x4" Totara @ 18" spacing, you could see the pit-saw marks on the sides.

    I though, "fuck, what's this lot worth", and "rather him than me under a fucking great Totara log spiltting it into 4" slabs".
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I once looked at buying a house up the valley a way, it'd core had been a hunting lodge way back, when it was a day's tramp to get from Wellington to mid Hutt valley. The studs were 4"x4" Totara @ 18" spacing, you could see the pit-saw marks on the sides.

    I though, "fuck, what's this lot worth", and "rather him than me under a fucking great Totara log spiltting it into 4" slabs".
    Gotta pre drill that shit to get a nail into it. Getting them out...not a fucken chance. Grind them flush or try and punch them in if you want to dress it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post

    Our cottage is historically listed, not that that means much, but we want to consider the health of the house as well as our own. Bit of an icon in the community for a few generations.
    116yo 2 story wooden house here - not listed thank christ. Too low to the river rocks some of it is still sitting on to get under it...6mm MDF laid over the old floorboards post quakes made a hell of a difference. The mats don't lift in a southerly now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Heat transfers are a very tricky. You need to calculate static pressure and flow rates. Once that's done, a good heat source can be spread throughout.
    You missed the point of that post Drew - an accelerant helps spread the heat too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    You missed the point of that post Drew - an accelerant helps spread the heat too.
    yup, advice i got given years ago whilst living in rural areas, if you discover your house on fire, exit the house and make sure everyone is safe then continue to make extra sure everyone is safe, this should take approximately 20 minutes then call 111.

    that was given to me 30 years ago, i should expect with modern building materials and furnishings that 10 minutes should be sufficient these days.

    from experience, in rural areas the vollies are not going to get there quick enough to stop everything getting smoke damaged but can get there quick enough to stop a complete rebuild,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    You missed the point of that post Drew - an accelerant helps spread the heat too.
    My bad. Glassed over it and missed the point. Story of my life really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Gotta pre drill that shit to get a nail into it. Getting them out...not a fucken chance. Grind them flush or try and punch them in if you want to dress it.
    Yeah, it's impressive stuff. I used to be able to collect packing case pallets, from stuff imported from Indonesia. They were made out of planks 40mm thick by anything from 80 to 200mm wide, up to 4 metres long. It's all random rain forest timber, and I had collected several cubic meters of the better looking stuff when a friend spotted it. He's a naval architect, knows exotic timbers inside out. He was very surprised with what was there, came back a week later with some reference books and spent an hour cataloging the pile.

    Most of the stuff I'd collected simply because it looked cool, with bright yellow and pink stripes through it turned out to be rose wood. Worth a bloody fortune for making reproduction antique furniture. I gave him a lot of it, but there's still some out back somewhere.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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