Every Email in UK to be monitored

[Cajun]

"The Communications Data Bill (2008) will lead to the creation of a single, centralized database containing records of all e-mails sent, websites visited and mobile phones used by UK citizens. In a carnivore-on-steroids programme, as all vestiges of communication privacy are stripped away, The BBC reports that Home Secretary Jacqui Smith says this is a 'necessity'."

Communications Data Bill

The purpose of this Bill is to allow communications data capabilities for the prevention and detection of crime and protection of national security to keep up with changing technology by providing for the collection and retention of such data - including data not required for the business purposes of communications service providers; and to ensure strict safeguards continue to strike the proper balance between privacy and protecting the public.

article http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7671046.stm

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fuck me big brother is gettign worse and worse, with all the cameras that watch you in england when in public now want to watch everything you do on your computer

[Trouser]

Not to mention watch where you drive and with eftpos what you buy. It's for your 'security' darlings. So we can make you 'secure'.

[jrandom]

england

I think you mean Airstrip One.

[Usarka]

Every poor fecker in england who visits sites like www.ferretrimming.com will be shitting themselves......

[puddytat]

It'll be our turn soon,we're not part of the ECHELON system for nothing...
Then it'll be the identity/credit card with the built in tracking device that the good ole U.S of A (arseholes ?) are already phasing in...
After that its the wee chip in the arm which is funnily enough also being phased in in the U.S
Keep repeating the words Terror-Terrorist enough & the people will take whatever they dish out. Its for our own good right ? Ha fuckin ha
Its to keep them in POWER.
Folks , next time your stuck on what piece of melodramatic crap to choose at the DVD rental store,educate yourself & get ZEITGEIST !!! Before they ban it.

[alanzs]

Old news. The NSA in the USA has been monitoring everyone's emails and phone conversation for years. It is all part of the "Patriot Act." Big Brother has been around for a long time.

[geoffm]

Remind me again why there was that big unpleasantness in 1939, and who won? I think it was the bad guys.

[Dave Lobster]

Remind me again why there was that big unpleasantness in 1939, and who won? I think it was the bad guys.

The americans won. I saw it in a film or two.

It wont be long before they won the Falklands conflict too.

U571, anyone?

[ManDownUnder]

So is this a thread about Waihopai or the GCSB?

[CookMySock]

hehe, what do they think they will possibly accomplish? The people who should encrypt are already encrypting. Its trivial. Its secure. Duh - its like banning undetectable radar detectors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinPT

Steve

[Tank]

There are 'other' tricks as well.

I read that one group never actually sent emails - they simply saved drafts on a web email provider and each of them had a login.

A friend of mine who works in computer forensics for the NZ police told me that if you want email to be untraceable use gMail as they wont release details of anything to anyone outside the US G'Ment unless there is an immediate risk of death.

[Trouser]

Encrypting is about as weak as wraping your message in clear celophane so no one can see it.

There is nothing 'they' cant decrypt.

[CookMySock]

Encrypting is about as weak as wraping your message in clear celophane so no one can see it.

There is nothing 'they' cant decrypt.

LOL I don't think so. You watch too much telly.

Steve

[Cajun]

LOL I don't think so. You watch too much telly.

Steve

but then that goes along with this (http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;897277082)

UK appeals court rejects encryption key disclosure defense

Defendants can't deny police an encryption key because of fears the data it unlocks will incriminate them, a British appeals court has ruled.

[vifferman]

LOL. Reminds me that my son for ages was using a sig line on all his email, messages, etc. that had lots of keywords like "bomb gun assassinate hijack" etc. He figured he's give anyone who was monitoring email a lot of extra shit to read.

Interestingly (or perhaps not) is how much this all ties in with a novel I bought in LA to read on the plane, called "The Traveler", by John Twelve Hawks. It's a bit thin (the second one, "The Dark River" is much better), and is about "the Vast Machine", and how 'they' are seeking to achieve control of everyone by monitoring us, controlling us via fear (bad news promulgated by the media) and weeding out any dissenters. It's worth a read.
I enjoyed reading both of the books (and I'm waiting on the next one to be published in June 2009), partly because some of the action takes place in cities I visited in August and September (London, Rome, paris, Los Angeles), so it was kewl to picture the settings he described.
JXIIH's official website is interesting (even if you haven't read the books). It links to some other sites about gummint monitoring and whatnot, and also some bogus sites linked to characters/organisations in the novels.