TradeMe manuals being sold for $50 are from the public domain for free

[theporkbonekid]

Nope, if they are "free in the public domain" then they are just that. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU LIKE WITH THEM.

The public domain license is a completely stupid license, for reasons like this. There are much much better licenses to use, and it costs nothing. Go figure.

Gee you idiots get all heated up over the tiniest little tidbit that you can possibly rake up. Don't you have anything interesting to go and do?

Steve

Only you are getting heated up!!! and we know why......be humble my friend

[Tank]

I can go down to the plant shop too, and buy a fucken packet of tomato seeds and plant the the cunts, and make 100 times my money back selling seedlings. SO FUCKING WHAT???

Get a clue.

Steve

Hey - if you did that you could buy a better bike !

[theporkbonekid]

I went into Colemans Suzuki parts shop and asked for the price of the Owner's Manual for the FXR150...

They answered... $125

Yeah, I think dangerousbastard's family own this store, not quite 100% sure...

[Hoon]

I see no problem with this (assuming it's not copyrighted).

If I offer an item worth $1 to you for $10 and you accept it, who's fault is it?

Say I value my free time at $20 per hour. If I estimate that it'll take more than 2.5 hrs to d/l, print and then bind a manual, it'd be better for me to pay someone else $50 to do it.

I use the same logic to put the lawnmower man out of a job. Takes me 30 mins to mow my lawns which he charges $35 for. I would have to value my time at $70 p/h before getting him around again (ignoring mower/maintenance etc).

If I was super rich and valued my time at $100+ p/h then I could easily see how $50 would be a good deal. But if I was jobless or a younger person with ample time then I'd have no issue wasting a whole day to save me a few $$$$.

Seems to me like more of a buyer problem than a seller/trademe issue.

AAA++++ GREAT TRADER - HIGHLY RECOMMEND

[oldskool]

Say I value my free time at $20 per hour.

Sheesh everyone is tripping over the meaning of free!

If my 'free time' was worth $100, [*]I'd be an unscrupulous bastard[*]I'd be absurdly rich[*]I wouldn't need to buy a $50 stolen manual to repair something I'd give my $60/hr 'technician' for a monthly 'service' (and his free time would probably only cost a slab of Lion Red for the job!)

[theporkbonekid]

I see no problem with this (assuming it's not copyrighted).

If I offer an item worth $1 to you for $10 and you accept it, who's fault is it?

Say I value my free time at $20 per hour. If I estimate that it'll take more than 2.5 hrs to d/l, print and then bind a manual, it'd be better for me to pay someone else $50 to do it.

I use the same logic to put the lawnmower man out of a job. Takes me 30 mins to mow my lawns which he charges $35 for. I would have to value my time at $70 p/h before getting him around again (ignoring mower/maintenance etc).

If I was super rich and valued my time at $100+ p/h then I could easily see how $50 would be a good deal. But if I was jobless or a younger person with ample time then I'd have no issue wasting a whole day to save me a few $$$$.

Seems to me like more of a buyer problem than a seller/trademe issue.

AAA++++ GREAT TRADER - HIGHLY RECOMMEND

And we all Know what assume means...it makes an ASS out of U and ME...You need to read earlier posts before you assume...

[theporkbonekid]

Some people are thinking I am poor? There are many reasons to want a manual. Perhaps I am rich because I learn things and educate others how to save their money when something is available for free.

[nallac]

Hey - if you did that you could buy a better bike !

[theporkbonekid]

Hee..Hee...Hee

[xwhatsit]

And we all Know what assume means...it makes an ASS out of U and ME...You need to read earlier posts before you assume...

I think his assumption was correct -- if it's in the public domain, then it isn't really copyrighted.

@DB: Yeah, sure, he can do what he likes, and the tomato analogy too wrong. But -- and you should understand this, being a user of open-source software too (it wouldn't be sustainable without proper acknowledgements) -- I think it's good karma to be as transparent as possible when it comes to this sort of stuff.

Certainly nothing to involve the police or Trademe about, though.

[FROSTY:Me]

300 odd frikkin pages -copied /bound for $50 sheesh

[riffer]

300 odd frikkin pages -copied /bound for $50 sheesh

Exactly.

At 16c a page, they're hardly creaming it.

Before you hassle people for this, try and actually do it yourself. Shitty way to make a living doing one-offs I reckon.

[theporkbonekid]

Such a shame that my orginal posting has been edited, makes you wonder if this trader is a member of this forum. e-classicbike.c is the rogue traders name. I will not post or share knowledge on this site if the MODERATORS continue to censor information that my fellow members deserve. A pity that the moderators do allow fucken abuse, fucken slander and allow members to call other members fucken names...

[theporkbonekid]

Exactly.

At 16c a page, they're hardly creaming it.

Before you hassle people for this, try and actually do it yourself. Shitty way to make a living doing one-offs I reckon.

My learned friend.....Just take one of his manuals to a print shop. I can get the local shop to print his manual for $15....And Sell it for $50...Profit margin for me 200%....Sure you could do it your way....But there are many ways to skin a cat. I have only shown you one...Wake up the coffee's burning....

[theporkbonekid]

My learned friend.....Just take one of his manuals to a print shop. I can get the local shop to print his manual for $15....And Sell it for $50...Profit margin for me 200%....Sure you could do it your way....But there are many ways to skin a cat. I have only shown you one...Wake up the coffee's burning....

And......no body is hassling anyone....Only you hassling me about spreading the truth...Get your facts right before you slander anyone!!!