Who's voting ACT, apart from me?

[rogson]

If Rodney wins Epsom, which he will, ACT will not have to reach the 5% threshold for it to get proportional representation in parliament.

Do you want; logical environmental policies, tough stance on crime, lower government spending, and a common sense counterpoint to National's drongo MPs in the next government.....then party vote ACT.

[cs363]

If Rodney wins Epsom, which he will, ACT will not have to reach the 5% threshold for it to get proportional representation in parliament.

Do you want; logical environmental policies, tough stance on crime, lower government spending, and a common sense counterpoint to National's drongo MPs in the next governmen.....then party vote ACT.

So...if I'm reading that correctly - that is, that the loyal ACT suporters of Epsom will vote Rodders back to parliament (highly likely I agree)giving ACT representation in parliament then shouldn't the party vote be for National?

[rogson]

So...if I'm reading that correctly - that is, that the loyal ACT suporters of Epsom will vote Rodders back to parliament (highly likely I agree)giving ACT representation in parliament then shouldn't the party vote be for National?

Nope.......if Rodney wins Epsom on the electoral vote and ACT gets 1% of the party vote then he will be the lone ACT PM in parliament.

If Rodney wins Epsom on the electoral vote and ACT gets 2% of the party vote, then ACT gets 2 PMs in parliament - Rodney plus the first/next person on the list.

So, if Rodney wins Epsom, more party votes for ACT means more ACT MPs.....period!

[rainman]

Who's voting ACT, apart from me?

Um, no thanks.

Some of their ideas have some merit, but they're just too far off beam on most everything else. Which is why they're only supported by a <5% fringe of libertarian ideologues, and have to depend on being a personality cult to get in.

And the prospect of Sir Rog is just a big big turnoff.

[Pussy]

Me! Have been since 1996

[cs363]

Me! Have been since 1996

I KNEW there was something funny about you.....


Oh well, could be worse - at least your not in bed with Helen....

[Quasievil]

And the prospect of Sir Rog is just a big big turnoff.

If it wasnt For Mr Douglas we would still be living in communist NZ, ie barriers everywhere.
If the current looneys in Labour and National actually let his policies flow we would be in a far better state than the one we are in now, ie revert back to Socialism (semi communist) as we are currently in.

For me Act all the way if only on the following reasons

1/ repell the emissions trading scheme
2/ Reduction in beauracratic state culture
3/ Tough penalties to the crims
4/ Major tax cuts and with it freedom of choice as a person as to where I spend my dollar on the services I need


ACT ALL THE WAY

End of the day Im a realist and reckon we will get sucked backwards by all the stupid gravy train bludgers who suckle on tax payer funded government handouts as well as stupid greenies who dont understand jack which will result in a further degradation of any future possibility for NZ to be a successful economy

[wildpudding]

Ha ha ACT!

What a joke.

[rainman]

If it wasnt For Mr Douglas we would still be living in communist NZ, ie barriers everywhere.

I don't think that means what you think it does.

For me Act all the way if only on the following reasons

1/ repell the emissions trading scheme
2/ Reduction in beauracratic state culture
3/ Tough penalties to the crims
4/ Major tax cuts and with it freedom of choice as a person as to where I spend my dollar on the services I need

1. So what ideas do you have to address climate change? (Note I'm not a major supporter of the ETS as it stands but it is probably better than doing nothing.
2. Might be Ok but the devil is in the details. Who, what, when, how?
3. Yup, I'd possibly support tougher penalties but we already have something like the second highest per capita incarceration rate. Don't fancy having to shell out for more ambulances at the bottom of the cliff. How about some prevention?
4. I actually think NZ has fairly low taxes given the level of functionality of public systems. There should always be effort put in to making things as efficient as possible, but Act's cuts are always completely loopy and just sound like populist crap. Have they ever produced a balanced budget showing what would go if they cut tax back to a flat 20% or whatever tosh they're spouting at the moment?

as well as stupid greenies who dont understand jack which will result in a further degradation of any future possibility for NZ to be a successful economy

Depends on how you measure success. The rampant free market isn't working out too well at the moment, to be fair, and we've all (except the very top 1%) been getting poorer for the last little while. If Act had a bit of balance balance between it's current ideological push and a decent approach towards addressing our environmental issues, maybe with something for "middle NZ", they might be a halfway decent party.

[oldrider]

ACT are too far to the left for us but it looks like they will get four votes from our house this time round. John.

[jrandom]

So what ideas do you have to address climate change?

Air conditioning?

[rainman]

ACT are too far to the left for us

Sheesh, who would you want in power then if you had a choice? Genghis Khan?

[Jantar]

Sheesh, who would you want in power then if you had a choice? Genghis Khan?

What party is he standing for?

[Quasievil]

1. So what ideas do you have to address climate change?

None, because their is no man made climate change its a natural situation, not the first time and wont be the last time the climate has a fluctuation.

Climate change is an excuse to scare people into thinking their is a problem that we need government help to "save our souls" and this will only come in the form of taxes and legislation to gain taxes, such as carbon credit and ETS.......its all B.S

[jafar]

None, because their is no man made climate change its a natural situation, not the first time and wont be the last time the climate has a fluctuation.

Climate change is an excuse to scare people into thinking their is a problem that we need government help to "save our souls" and this will only come in the form of taxes and legislation to gain taxes, such as carbon credit and ETS.......its all B.S

+1 yep have to agree with you there, the whole carbon tax propaganda exercise is a monumental crock of shit. It is @ best a feeble half arsed excuse to get more tax & then claim it is for the good of the planet.