Getting RACE fit.

[scrivy]

Well I'd have to admit I can only do 2 out of the three at the same time

Proves your unco Kick...... I bet Joni doesn't like hot pies spilt on her back either......

Third thing is aerobic fitness. Working on this with jogging, mountain running, mountainbiking, road cycling, spin classes, step classes etc etc.
There is also no substitute for being aerobically fit.
Geezez Steve, so what you're saying is that all those fit milfs at the gyms will be good for roadracing???

Fifth and by NO means least is flexibility. After all that training you need to maintain a decent level of flexibility. This means stretching and massage. Massage is the main activity that amateur sports people lack over more professional sportspeople. It aids the muscles in repairing and remaining supple and also aids in the sports person remaining relaxed. It is a major advantage if you can get it.

I would recommend Yoga, absolutely. It provides some flexibility training and also provides some mind space for the next part. Not to mention some strength training.

Kick does yoga too, but I heard its only to help him try to auto fellate himself when the lovely Joni ain't home........

[scrivy]

In all honesty Frosty, I do occasionally go to the gym, but more to perve than to get fitter.

Stamina for NZ races?? I personally think if you can't do 10 laps on a race bike, then you definitely shouldn't be on the track. It takes more strength than stamina to wrestle a superbike etc around when its bucking like ya missus sister in the sack.

People can run for 2 hours etc if they want stamina, but its 20 mins or less for most NZ races.

Doesn't matter how long I've been going to the gym for in preparation, I'm still aching like a b@stard after my first race!!
Its race fitness that counts for me. The more I do, the easier it is on my body. Unfortunately I don't do any winter riding at all, my first race being my first time in anger in a year - so naturally I get sore. Doesn't mean I can't wrestle out a fastest lap in practice in just 3 laps though!!

The biggest preparation I do is head games. I psyhc most people out with fastest lap times in practice, and go like a lunatic on cold tyres. In reality, I don't have to go that fast in races. (Well, ok last year was different 'cause of the LCR's).
Mind set is the biggest winner for me. I refuse to let someone beat me, I will try like a mad thing to get the person back. Never say die so to speak. (But you dont win every time either!). I have watched lots of riders 'give up' when passed, and never try something outside of the norm to regain the lead.
If you ever look at my lines, you'll see that I do take different lines to most. When getting into a heated battle, they pay off for me for sure.

But preparation for racing??
Just get on the track as much as you can!!

[racer40]

i hope joni doesnt read these threads or i think poor kicka will surly be kicked out.

[Weaver]

I noticed at round 5 of the vic series, that after the twenty lap races there were a great deal of fucken tired riders coming into the pits.
I've only raced 10 lap races so far but after seeing that 20 lap race I've starting jogging to get my fitness up.
In my case I'm not wanting to bulk up, because I don't want to have to buy new leathers

[steveyb]

Yep, it is not just about being able to do a 10 lap race.
It is about being as capable in lap ten as you were in lap 1.

AND about being as capable in lap 10 of race 2 or 3 as you were in lap 1 of practice.

This is the stamina part and the recovery part that most motorbike racers completely dismiss.

If you get physically tired you will get mentally tired and then start to fail at the tasks at hand, ie racing a motorcycle at 100% effort.

Some of you may recall the TV show Clash of the Codes. The rowers always seemed to win the bastard.
Then one year they invited Slighty to go on it. My mates were part of the production crew. They said that at the beginning of the shoot everyone was saying Who is this motorbike guy, all he does is sit ontop of a bike and it takes him around. He will be useless.
Well, after they all saw his back as he climbed across the vertical wall in a singlet and went on to cream everyone in that particular episode they were all hanging around him to get his training programme and tips.
Who says motorbike racers can't be athletes.
Except Scrivy of course, he is just a beer swilling 3-wheeled pedalo driver. No skill or athletisicm required there.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Its not Kikacha's fault. He doesn't know.

[CHOPPA]

Motocross practice is the best way to get fit for riding, provided you dont get hurt.... If you can race a 25 min moto going as fast on the last lap as on the first, you could race a 3hr race on a superbike without breaking a sweat, in saying that on a road bike even if you dont get physically tired your brain does if your not race fit

[scrivy]

Who says motorbike racers can't be athletes.
Except Scrivy of course, he is just a beer swilling 3-wheeled pedalo driver. No skill or athletisicm required there.

Mate, you thought you had me sussed. I drink Bourbon!
Um.... I think Sidecar Bob will confirm for me on this, but a little while back I beat a very top superbike rider in a push up competition, and I regard him as 1 of the fitest out there.
As Frosty says though SteveyB, he was saying fitness for the Nats, nothing else. Again, race fitness is best attained by race practice.

Scrivy, the unskilled, lethargic, bourbon drinking pedal car driver.....

[Kickaha]

Stamina for NZ races?? I personally think if you can't do 10 laps on a race bike, then you definitely shouldn't be on the track.

Aren't you one of the Pussies who always goes along with the Sidecar GP being shortened up form 12-14 laps to 10 each year??

can't you handle a longer than 10?

[scrivy]

Aren't you one of the Pussies who always goes along with the Sidecar GP being shortened up form 12-14 laps to 10 each year??

can't you handle a longer than 10?

WTF?? Since when was it ever 12-14?? Why don't you make it 20 this year Kick? Mind you you might have to get Joni to swing......

[sidecar bob]

Mate, you thought you had me sussed. I drink Bourbon!
Um.... I think Sidecar Bob will confirm for me on this, but a little while back I beat a very top superbike rider in a push up competition, and I regard him as 1 of the fitest out there.
:

Umm yes, he shall remain un named, but i did witness the top superbike rider top out at about 50 push ups & scrivy cruised on to about 70, having said that, im good for about five.

[scrivy]

Aren't you one of the Pussies who always goes along with the Sidecar GP being shortened up form 12-14 laps to 10 each year??

can't you handle a longer than 10?

Hey Kick, I just relooked at Mylaps.com. No wonder you have the energy to want to do more laps of Root a poon a ........ you're over 8-12 seconds a lap slower than what me and Bob do......... Mate, at that pace, I'd be able to go all day!!! Much like being at the sidecar 'Have-a-go-day'!!!

[sidecar bob]

Hey Kick, I just relooked at Mylaps.com. No wonder you have the energy to want to do more laps of Root a poon a ........ you're over 8-12 seconds a lap slower than what me and Bob do......... Mate, at that pace, I'd be able to go all day!!! Much like being at the sidecar 'Have-a-go-day'!!!

Dude, you are truly the biggest pisstaker i will ever know.
Having said that, even if we went 3 seconds a lap slower i could do it all day.

[scrivy]

Umm yes, he shall remain un named, but i did witness the top superbike rider top out at about 50 push ups & scrivy cruised on to about 70, having said that, im good for about five.

This threads got me phucked!!
I know for a fact that you're not the fittest swinger out there Bob (Sorry for that Bob - I'd probably give that honour to Richie Lawrance...), but I also know that you have the strength to hold on to our harder than most to swing on rig, for which even Richie couldn't do it!
You also do less gym work than me, and you drink BEER!!
So why did we last longer than others at Ruapuna this year in the overwhelming heat?? It ain't our stamina or fitness regime, or even our practice track time. So why are some racers more adept to endurance than others?? Is it mostly mind set???? Got me phucked!!!

Frosty's asked a good question.

Are North Island pies less fattening than S.I. pies??

[Kickaha]

WTF?? Since when was it ever 12-14?? Why don't you make it 20 this year Kick? Mind you you might have to get Joni to swing......

The first year I did it in 2001 it was 14 laps, Bryan Wyeth rolled over about lap 3 and gave us a break while he got sorted out

Since them the riders have continually decided to shorten it up when the club has proposed 12 laps

Hey Kick, I just relooked at Mylaps.com. No wonder you have the energy to want to do more laps of Root a poon a ........ you're over 8-12 seconds a lap slower than what me and Bob do......... Mate, at that pace, I'd be able to go all day!!! Much like being at the sidecar 'Have-a-go-day'!!!

8-12 seconds, what a fucken dreamer,

As for race fitness, the more time on the bike the easier it is, although the MTB a few times a week did help a bit last season