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    Is National being irresponsible?

    I'm a bit disillusioned with John Key and the National Party. This election should be a walkover for them in terms of the popular vote although MMP means it's possible they might not be able to form a government.

    Nevertheless, I do not understand all of the spending promises they are making. I'd have thought the responsible position would be not to announce any lollie scramble at all and cane Labour every time they offered to spend money. After all, we've had 9 years of Michael Cullen telling us how the Government cannot afford X, Y and Z..... The voters would be pretty suspicious of Labour suddenly finding all the extra money.

    But NO. What happens? Both parties are trying to outpromise each other in doling out bits of money to voters.

    I'm seriously thinking of not voting for National. ACT will get my Party vote anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    I'm seriously thinking of not voting for National. ACT will get my Party vote anyway.
    Then you will be wasting both votes,
    All parties know that votes are for sale and will at least hover around the edges of $ promises.
    Will you support a party that bases it's campaign on telling us how bad the other party/s are??
    The thing you have to ask yourself is, will Party XYZ do well for me first, and the country second?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    I'm seriously thinking of not voting for National. ACT will get my Party vote anyway.
    You should telephone Mr Key and tell him that.
    I'm sure he'll be mortified, and recant all his irresponsible and wayward statements...
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Bribes worked for labour last election and it's a fair assumption that most nz'ers will vote based on WIIFM rather than the "bigger picture".

    I am getting sick of these labour ad's talking about not trusting key. Anyone remember someone signing a painting they didn't paint, or getting their driver to speed to a rugby game then hanging them out to dry, or the numerous other un-trustworthy acts.....

    How about advertising based on policy not personal attacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    I'm a bit disillusioned with John Key and the National Party. This election should be a walkover for them in terms of the popular vote although MMP means it's possible they might not be able to form a government.
    Quite agree with you

    They should walk away with this election

    But somehow they are failing to fire

    I really want rid of Uncle Helen

    So National will get my vote

    I'm not swayed by election bribery (if anything just the reverse) but would much prefer they a strong line against government spending and featherbedding of the bureaucracy

    Maybe I should vote ACT?
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    meh whoever you vote for government wins.

    So you might as well just vote for who you think would be best for our country. It may not count at the end of the day but its better than not voting at all. (I am told a lot of people do not vote)
    I wouldn’t be broke if the voices in my head paid rent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    I am getting sick of these labour ad's talking about not trusting key. Anyone remember someone signing a painting they didn't paint, or getting their driver to speed to a rugby game then hanging them out to dry, or the numerous other un-trustworthy acts.....

    How about advertising based on policy not personal attacks?
    Yeah, they piss me off too (and I'm not really a National party supporter, nor particualrly anti-Labour). I have a feeling that for anyone apart from a die-hard Labourphile, these ads will have the opposite effect to that intended.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Yeah, they piss me off too (and I'm not really a National party supporter, nor particualrly anti-Labour). I have a feeling that for anyone apart from a die-hard Labourphile, these ads will have the opposite effect to that intended.
    here here... quite agree. I wondered if it was just me or if there had been a great lack of policy statements and a profuse ammount of mud slinging that only I noticed.

    Fire them all... start again...
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    Yeah I trust Uncle Helen

    Trust her to give us another three years of just the same

    Thats why she has to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom View Post
    Fire them all... start again...
    Thank goodness for MadBikeBoy's impending fascist dictatorship....
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Who ever wins got my vote
    If you are behind meDont ask as I am lost too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Nevertheless, I do not understand all of the spending promises they are making.


    I'm seriously thinking of not voting for National. ACT will get my Party vote anyway.
    Liarbour's bribe of a "packet of chewing gum" tax cut, bought the stupid peoples' votes last time.

    Party vote for Act, as that will make a stronger base to govern with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    I'm a bit disillusioned with John Key and the National Party. This election should be a walkover for them in terms of the popular vote although MMP means it's possible they might not be able to form a government.

    Nevertheless, I do not understand all of the spending promises they are making. I'd have thought the responsible position would be not to announce any lollie scramble at all and cane Labour every time they offered to spend money. After all, we've had 9 years of Michael Cullen telling us how the Government cannot afford X, Y and Z..... The voters would be pretty suspicious of Labour suddenly finding all the extra money.

    But NO. What happens? Both parties are trying to outpromise each other in doling out bits of money to voters.

    I'm seriously thinking of not voting for National. ACT will get my Party vote anyway.
    What's your last name Winston?

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    On the bright side National have a plan for the economy and are publishing how they intend of paying for the promises.

    Labour on the other hard have published nothing and only say "we will do a mini budget in December".

    So they have been in control of the books for 9 years and cannot tell us their plan until 1 month after they are voted back.

    FFS - if you dont think we arnt going to get screwed on that budget - well its just not worth talking about.

    ACT isnt a silly vote - as long as Rodders gets in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro asian View Post
    What's your last name Winston?
    Gad - sprung!!

    Hmmmm........

    That's not the question you should be asking - tell me this - Where is there one shred of fact, one iota of evidence in your post??..... the people of New Zealand are sick and tired of you lot and have had enough! They understand what this country needs which is less Retro Asians and more decent people on superannuation who will vote for me!!

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