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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    I knew you'd bring up Powell.
    Yeah well, in the contrast with Rumsfeld he's a good example, but I could equally have cited Eisenhower...good leaders are good leaders and the military tends to be good at identifying and developing them. Petraeus is probably "one to watch".

    I just feel more comfortable with knowing the bloke with the power to send other blokes to get killed, actually understands the reality of what he's ordering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    Really? Which of these was most "hawkish" in the Bush administration that opted to invade Iraq: Donald Rumsfeld or General Colin Powell?
    Rumsfeld has always been a neo-con right winger from way back. Powell had the respect of most Americans, not Donny boy.
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    Ralph Nader! - is he standing this year.

    Ron Paul would have been better for the Republicans, but, he wasn't intimately complicit with the Neocon factions.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    Yeah well, in the contrast with Rumsfeld he's a good example, but I could equally have cited Eisenhower...good leaders are good leaders and the military tends to be good at identifying and developing them. Petraeus is probably "one to watch".

    I just feel more comfortable with knowing the bloke with the power to send other blokes to get killed, actually understands the reality of what he's ordering.
    Petraeus !Another yes man for the gummint!

    Powell lost all credibility over the WMD and he knows it!

    I agree with your last sentence though - although - the scary part is there are high level people in Washington advocating a war with someone - anyone - to divert attention from the current financial fuck up and help get americay back on it's feet!
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Petraeus !Another yes man for the gummint!

    Powell lost all credibility over the WMD and he knows it!

    I agree with your last sentence though - although - the scary part is there are high level people in Washington advocating a war with someone - anyone - to divert attention from the current financial fuck up and help get americay back on it's feet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    I agree with your last sentence though - although - the scary part is there are high level people in Washington advocating a war with someone - anyone - to divert attention from the current financial fuck up and help get americay back on it's feet!
    Reagan had the US invade the sleepy little country of Grenada for just that reason. Panama was another example, as was Nicaragua, a few times. Divert the attention away from domestic issues by rallying behind the flag. A very tried and true way to maintain popularity and power. Look at what Bush did with getting the Patriot Act established.

    If you don't support the/any war or more specifically "Our Troops" you're labeled anti-American.
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