Weight transfer?

[jrandom]

Ah, I beg to differ. Any unit with a given wheelbase that has a heavy weight added up high will be much less stable than with that same weight dropped to under the chassis.

You misread Max Preload's post.

He was stating that if the weight's up high and instead of sitting it directly on the roofrack you keep it where it is and put in some struts reaching around and attaching it to the bottom of the chassis, nothing will change.

It's an analogy to make it clear that resting your weight on the footpegs rather than the seat won't lower the COM of the bike.

Obviously if you take a weight off the top of a car and sling it underneath instead the COM will change, I mean, duh. It's all about where in space the bulk of the mass sits.

[jrandom]

...and the body position of top-level riders...

Way hey hey, maybe you should try riding like that, might be what you need to get those chicken strips off!

[dipshit]

Way hey hey, maybe you should try riding like that, might be what you need to get those chicken strips off!

Actually if i was more worried about losing my chicken strips, then i would need to ride more like your typical 'legion in his own lunchtime' kiwi and stick my knee and ass way off into thin air and my upper body back across the bike so i would have to lean the bike over further!

[MSTRS:Me]

Perhaps my post wasn't particularly clear. The pallet of blocks is still above the roof - it's just attached to a frame that goes around the side of the car with no contact and connects to the chassis instead of being strapped to a roofrack.

However I do still offer my monetary incentive...

No, your post definitely wasn't clear on that point. Now that you clarify, all bets are off. Unless you want to bet based on my scenario?

[Hitcher]

When it comes to cornering, technique, rather than physics is what should be going through a rider's mind. Sound instruction and practice will be significantly more useful than esoteric discussions about vectors and centres of mass versus gravity.

[MSTRS:Me]

You misread Max Preload's post.

Obviously if you take a weight off the top of a car and sling it underneath instead the COM will change, I mean, duh. It's all about where in space the bulk of the mass sits.

Yep, glad you agree.
Tell me, though, Why does weighting the peg/s make the bike more stable? And don't give me any of your shit about taking the pressure off the rear shock and allowing the suspension to work unhindered, by taking the weight off the rear sub-frame.

[jrandom]

Why does weighting the peg/s make the bike more stable?

Fucked if I know, it just works, I'm happy to let you slow cunts get on with theorising about it.

[Max Preload]

Tell me, though, why does weighting the peg/s make the bike more stable?

Fucked if I know, it just works, I'm happy to let you slow cunts get on with theorising about it.

Because then your legs are articulating your body load and acting as a suspension component themselves since they're less rigid than just plonking your fat ass directly on the seat.

[jrandom]

Because then your legs are articulating the load since they're less rigid than just plonking your ass on the seat.

And don't forget, pushing down on the outside peg stops your rear tyre from skating away under power.

[Mikkel]

The reason is because your CoG is around about in the middle of your chest.

That may be - but your center of mass is located centrally in your trunk just above your pelvis. This is very close to the geometric center of the human body as well.
Obviously this location will change with changing body positions, but don't underestimate how heavy your legs and bum are.

As for the location of the CoG, I really don't know.

When it comes to cornering, technique, rather than physics is what should be going through a rider's mind. Sound instruction and practice will be significantly more useful than esoteric discussions about vectors and centres of mass versus gravity.

How about an esoteric argument about technique then?

[Hitcher]

How about an esoteric argument about technique then?

You would need somebody better qualified than me for that. Unless, of course, you want advice on how to ride like a nana.

[Mikkel]

You would need somebody better qualified than me for that.

Better qualified in technique or mysticism?

Unless, of course, you want advice on how to ride like a nana.

Might actually be very useful advice - this being the survival skills forum and all. Probably less likely to get anyone killed than trying to scrape pegs and do rolling stoppies.

[terbang]

change down a gear or two (that should provide enough engine braking without touching the brakes)

Why not use the brakes? Shifting down on the approach to a corner is so that you can keep the RPM in a suitable range for when you accelerate out. A by product of shifting down is that you will get some engine braking effect that can be used to your advantage, but its not the correct way to slow a motorcycle. Risky stuff in my view telling people to slow by using the rear wheel only (as in shifting down).

[dipshit]

That may be - but your center of mass is located centrally in your trunk just above your pelvis.

It depends on your body shape. A fit strong athlete's will be higher than someone with a big fat stomach and ass.

Now add a helmet into the equation and that the rider's upper body is also in the air stream - the CoG is moved even higher.

[enigma51]

It depends on your body shape. A fit strong athlete's will be higher than someone with a big fat stomach and ass.

Now add a helmet into the equation and that the rider's upper body is also in the air stream - the CoG is moved even higher.

My centre of gravity is the tip of my cock so roughly about knee high



Have you ladies ever thought about just riding not analysing every thing you do? I dont know it might just keep you concetrating on the road and alive!