Rear tyres:180 or 190? What's your preference?

[Mishy]

Um, NO! Completely the opposite, the bike turns in better, but takes more effort to do so.

You contradict yourself, and so does all the data from every tyre manufacturer I could mention.
Consider this - if it takes more effort to turn in, is that better ? and how does this all relate to the mid turn radius a bike will hold for a given lean angle ?
Simple truth is this - if it takes a lot more effort to initiate a turn, then the bike is just not steering as well - simple.
I stand by what I said - the science behind it is correct.

[naphazoline]

after a long time thinking about it,and wearing out the Z6s i had on,it finally come time to get a new set of feet.

i rang the shop today,to ask for their recommendation,as reading through the assorted tyre threads on here,only got me confuseed as to which sort to get.

there's no doubt about it,there's some great info from a lot of people on here,but at the end of the day,each person has their own preference,and between them there's a lot of different types of bikes.
now what might work good on a cruiser,may be totally wrong for me.not to say that particular brand/model of tyre isn't good.
also,it obviously depends on what you are going to use your bike for. race,commute,tour,.....e.t.c.
and i'm starting to get away from commuting,and get more into fun riding.

initially,they recommended michelin pilot sport,but when i got there,they talked me into a pair of metzeler M3s. 180/55/17,and 120/70/17.
so i've clocked up 200kms this afternoon,to see what they're like.

certainly a lot nicer cornering then Z6s.they feel a whole lot smoother tipping in,and changing direction and it's not the change in profile,as i ran a Z6 180/55/17 for a while till the front was ready to change.
they're definitely a step up from what i had,and will give me something to compare to, when i get the next set.(which i hope to go sportier)

[MSTRS:Me]

certainly a lot nicer cornering then Z6s.they feel a whole lot smoother tipping in,and changing direction and it's not the change in profile,as i ran a Z6

Nothing wrong with your choice, but I have to say that more-or-less any new tyre is gonna feel great compared to the worn carcase you just replaced.
The only way you can really know what the different tyres feel like is to ride back-to-back identical bikes all set up the same except each has a different brand/model of tyres. And the tyres must all be the same amount of scrub....

[naphazoline]

Nothing wrong with your choice, but I have to say that more-or-less any new tyre is gonna feel great compared to the worn carcase you just replaced.
The only way you can really know what the different tyres feel like is to ride back-to-back identical bikes all set up the same except each has a different brand/model of tyres. And the tyres must all be the same amount of scrub....

it just so happens,that the rear i replaced was only 2 weeks old.

now you might be wondering.....hmm.whats he doing replacing a 2 week old tyre?

well,i hadn't quite finished my front,(which evidently was an M3),and also i thought it was better to get them done now,rather then right in the middle of christmas.
also,i had organised with a mate.that i would sell him the tyre when i got a new set.only done about 1500kms on it

[Pussy]

Haven't read all the thread.... BUT, I wouldn't go fitting a 180 to a 6" rim... not good practice

[MSTRS:Me]

Haven't read all the thread.... BUT, I wouldn't go fitting a 180 to a 6" rim... not good practice

This again? It is not a problem. There is only 5mm difference each side of centre between a 180/190 in any given brand. The individual brand and it's particular profile is much more 'critical' because none of them measure exactly the same as the other brands anyway. (by that I mean that the Conmetzilen UberGrip 180 is the same width profile as the AvoBridge Megamile 190)

[naphazoline]

Haven't read all the thread.... BUT, I wouldn't go fitting a 180 to a 6" rim... not good practice

oops....my bad.
i've already fitted that profile,but on the shops recommendation.

[jrandom]

Many shops are staffed by morons.

I start with the tyre size the manufacturer specs for the bike, and take it from there.

[naphazoline]

Many shops are staffed by morons..

that's easy fixed.....don't go to many shops

[stify]

don't have any probs with tip in on the 190/50 spec tyre's on me blade, have just stuck a set of m1's on it and find it easier to ride than the rosso's that came off it(second set,cause i just had to make sure an all) but each to there own, still I would't fit a 180 tyre to a rim spec'd for a 190..

[klyong82]

don't have any probs with tip in on the 190/50 spec tyre's on me blade, have just stuck a set of m1's on it and find it easier to ride than the rosso's that came off it(second set,cause i just had to make sure an all) but each to there own, still I would't fit a 180 tyre to a rim spec'd for a 190..

How do you find the m1's on ya blade?

[stify]

How do you find the m1's on ya blade?

I like the tyres for the type on riding I do, I prefer the more round style profile the front has compaired with the rosso's, slower to tip in but nice and progressive, rear grip seems good wet or dry, havn't had a quick trip on them yet, but for an older generation tyre it's a pretty good road riding tyre considering the price(Go see mike at Drury Performance Centre for a good deal)

[naphazoline]

have just stuck a set of m1's on it and find it easier to ride than the rosso's that came off it

when i got my blade,it had a knackered set of rosso's that i immediately exchanged for an M3 front and an Z6 rear.

i think that was my problem all along.IMO,the Z6 is a shit tyre for my bike and riding style.the profile on them looks odd to say the least.

the M3s are a much rounder profile,but next time around,i'd like to try the M1s,and also i'll be going back to a 190.

[MGST]

K I was reading this last night and people saying you can get this but not that tyre in 190/55. Most of you were on about Pirelli's, Bridgestones, Michelins, Metzlers etc. I just picked up a 2004 CBR1000RR. It's got Dunlop Sportmax GP Racer M ( meduim ) ( front - 120/70ZR17 ) and Dunlop Sportmax GP Racer E ( endurance ) ( rear - 190/55ZR17 ) tyres on it. So theres another one you can get in 190/55.

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.co.uk/ty...l/gpRacerD209/

That's all, just fyi.

[portokiwi]

I just put some 190/50/17. and 170/20/17 metzler roadtec z4s I think they are great best grip I have had on the bike so far. I had Bridgestone before that which were good but splipped a bit.