Honda V4 2010

[Mountlocal1]

The VFR was always Honda's BMW. That's not my thought, that's from a BIKE article. Neither Honda nor BMW need be offended by the comment either. Having owned both a VFR and a K1000RS I think I can see what he was getting at.

Well put....

[motorbyclist]

VFRs created by HRC? Interesting.

i'm thinking the RC30 and RC45 days.

having ridden the rc46 with gear driven cams and then the latest incarnation with cam chain and vtec, i am tempted to say the rc46 was markedly more fun (two bros. muffler may have had something to so with that) and in my view, gear driven cams are part of what makes a vfr a vfr. vtec just annoyed me - surely they can bring it in smoothly for all balls all the time!? - but the machine was still a beaut for pillions and touring

i'd give my left nut for an RVF750... in the meantime i'll just have to make do with the 400 version *wistful sigh*

[quickbuck]

i'd give my left nut for an RVF750...*

Darn nice... There are a couple in the country... Shame in a way that they are soooo valuable.
Was out on Taupo last year and over took one in full on Castrol Colours... Poor guy was really taking it easy in fear of damaging it.
Myself on the common as 1992 CBR600 on the other hand was able to ride the wheels off it, and not worry so much....

I guess my point it, I really want a bike I can RIDE....
All that said..... Yes, RC45... VERY NICE.

Now back to topic, VFR1200... only when I get really old....
Just me though...
I had a blast today on an NC30..... A real blast... And I'm going to take it out tomorrow too.

[gav]

Yeah the VFR seems to have lost its balls
Dont forget the first model back in 1986 was lining up against GSXR750's and FZ750's etc and kicking butt too. It was Hondas "Fireblade" of the day. The early VFR won the Aus Superbike title, and was winning in the USA with Fred Merkel, Wayne Rainey etc. I've owned a few V4's over the years, the ideal would be 2002 non vtec VFR800 with a supercharger kit and sportier styling.

[Maha]

Seems there maybe two-three models of the 1200 due to be released in October at Tokyo. 1200R replacing the Blackbird, a 1200T looking to replace the ST1300 and a 1200X dual purpose.

[vifferman]

Seems there maybe two-three models of the 1200 due to be released in October at Tokyo. 1200R replacing the Blackbird, a 1200T looking to replace the ST1300 and a 1200X dual purpose.

And this info is based on what source...?
(Or is that 'sauce'?)

[Maha]

And this info is based on what source...?
(Or is that 'sauce'?)

Latest issue of BRM, must be true...
Shall wait and see.

[HenryDorsetCase]

not only that, but Interceptor was and is a fuckload cooler name than Fireblade.

I own this book and it is excellent. got it from Amazon when the dollar was better.

Honda V Force

[crynsie]

have a look.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/08/h...motorcycles-w/

A DSG gearbox for the new vfr!!!!

This may be a VERY big point of difference.

[Swoop]

Note that the new VFR will not be released until 2010.


http://world.honda.com/news/2009/209...nsmission/?r=m

An interesting clutch system.

[vifferman]

have a look.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/08/h...motorcycles-w/

A DSG gearbox for the new vfr!!!!

This may be a VERY big point of difference.

Aye.
It has two auto modes, and a manual (button operated) mode.
I didn't open your link (read all this before), but did it have the kewl videos showing the lack of any suspension /attitude movement with the auto trans, compared to an ornery manual one?
This is going to be a BIG development, especially given Honda's crap gearshifts - no more false neutrals or missed shifts, or graunches from 1st to 2nd.
And for those naysayers - have you driven a car with a DSG box? They're great!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Gold Wing is the next logical adaptation. Then after a few years the sprotbikes.

(sprotbikers are now used to the idea of anti spin, anti wheelie, traction and rev limits, computer controlled this and that: auto shifting is the next thing.)

It willl probably be too expensive for some bikes (utility bikes/small displacement) and maybe inappropriate for others: dirt bikes maybe?

Good to see honda doing the techy thing again.

[cheshirecat]

A guy from Motomart Lower Hutt said they were getting VFR1400's next year so there might be a range or just a 'light' agile all weather do anything 1400 - I do dream a bit!

[vifferman]

A guy from Motomart Lower Hutt said they were getting VFR1400's next year so there might be a range or just a 'light' agile all weather do anything 1400 - I do dream a bit!

From a bit of "reading between the lines", wishful thinking, extrapolating and whatnot, it appears that there may be at least two models - one to replace the VFR800 AND Blackbird (so a more sporty sport-tourer) and another to replace the ST1300. The spy photos show a sporty looking bike, with shaft drive. The articles showing the new DSG transmission show it attached to a V4 block, so that at least is a given, as is it being a conventionally camchain driven head. The gear-driven cam is dead, methinks, apart from mebbe in a racing situation. Honda wants a slim engine, and having the gear camdrive on the camshaft end is WAY too noisy, so it's a "goneburger".

[cheshirecat]

From a bit of "reading between the lines", wishful thinking, extrapolating and whatnot, it appears that there may be at least two models - one to replace the VFR800 AND Blackbird (so a more sporty sport-tourer) and another to replace the ST1300. The spy photos show a sporty looking bike, with shaft drive. The articles showing the new DSG transmission show it attached to a V4 block, so that at least is a given, as is it being a conventionally camchain driven head. The gear-driven cam is dead, methinks, apart from mebbe in a racing situation. Honda wants a slim engine, and having the gear camdrive on the camshaft end is WAY too noisy, so it's a "goneburger".

More of the same but with video showing us paddle shift and "it" London Biker

If they are talking about gear driven cam noise they need to hear a 1970 MV