So we got a new Government, and a new Leader

[trustme]

If you go to the trouble and read my post you will 'note' that it was the 'public services' that my comments were directed at. Good drugs?? Nope but I can give you the name of my optician.

Skyryder

I did read your post , I understand what you are saying, sort of, labour has grown the public service, for no discernable improvement in results & it is all the free markets fault.
I dont recall Key saying he would sell ACC , Schools or Health , please provide evidence of such statements.
Personally I would be happy to have an ability to opt out of ACC for a private scheme
I would welcome the return of bulk funding, people I spoke to that were at the pointy end of running schools seemed to like it.
If the public health system can't cope & the private system is able to offer services to reduce the overloading of the public system , I don't see a problem. There are plenty of people who would be dead if they relied on the public system
I have a friend who had a heart problem, public system said 12 months , the spcialist said do it now. Mate was cashed up after his divorce so he went private & paid. The surgeon said after the op "bloody lucky , you didnt have 12 months left",
Nasty, nasty money grubbing private sector.

[Newblade]

Politics,Religion.Really dont want to discuss either.BUT what really pisses me off is those of YOU that originate from another country and have the fucken gumption to run our country down..
If you dont like things in N.Z then FUCK OFF TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM.
As for a motorcycle gear supplier venting his opions on here.Good for business I dont think so.Cause I out of principal will not purchase from such,
And I reiterate my decision has nothing to do with any political party.
Just dont throw your opinions in my face and expect my money!!

Bring back Magilly Cuddy Serious

[MisterD]

Politics,Religion.Really dont want to discuss either.BUT what really pisses me off is those of YOU that originate from another country and have the fucken gumption to run our country down..
If you dont like things in N.Z then FUCK OFF TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM.

Oh belt up. I married a Kiwi, I'm bringing up a family here and I pay my f-ing taxes. That entitles me to a voice. If you want to put your fingers in your ears and chant "la la la, I can't hear you" that's fine by me.

As for a motorcycle gear supplier venting his opions on here.Good for business I dont think so.Cause I out of principal will not purchase from such,
And I reiterate my decision has nothing to do with any political party.
Just dont throw your opinions in my face and expect my money!!

What's that phrase about noses again? I would have thought the only things that actually matter in that respect are 1) the quality of the gear and 2) the quality of the service? (After all, Dick Hubbard is a wet weekend when it comes to politics, but his cereal isn't bad for all that...)

You're obviously a sensitive soul, so I recommend you stick to uncontroversial threads.

[Finn]

Oh this just gets better...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10542203

[Toaster]

.... Given John Key's background, and the sort of personal experience I've had in the business world with their ilk, I think this lot are going to be worse than Bolger/Shipley by a fair margin.

None of your rather verbose reply actually addressed my concern that you state Key has no principles... so points given for the political answer.

Just because a more right wing previous National Government did things that didn't help you out, it doesn't mean Key by default will do the same. He is more centrist that they were. His policies are far from those of the 1990's adn is doing what he can to distance himself from any influence of Roger's old economics.

[Newblade]

[QUOTE=MisterD;1804112]Oh belt up. I married a Kiwi, I'm bringing up a family here and I pay my f-ing taxes. That entitles me to a voice. If you want to put your fingers in your ears and chant "la la la, I can't hear you" that's fine by me.



Question did you vote ???? Are you entitled to vote ????


LMAO. I can assure you no sensitive soul here

[MisterD]

Question did you vote ???? Are you entitled to vote ????

Yes, and yes. Permanent resident, I'll have been here five years at Christmas...not getting citizenship, too much $$ for too little benefit and I am not ever going to swear allegiance to the Queen.

[Newblade]

Then you my friend have every right to have your say.
As for allegience to the Queen,I hear yah loud and clear.

Welcome!!

[Brian d marge]

I dont think so;

the reform thats that were being brought about were because of;
snip;

In 1979 the Conservative government of Margaret Thatcher lifted Britain's exchange controls. Investing institutions no longer risked penalties for investing overseas and capital flooded out of the country.

When Thatcher removed exchange controls, there was a predictable flood of funds abroad. This flood of investment funds out of the country coincided with the worst recession in British manufacturing since the 1930s.

same in NZ... ( You can see why think big wasn't the right thing at this time ,,,,,IMHO

snip

Commentators coined the term Rogernomics for these policies, drawing connections with Reaganomics and with Thatcherism. After the government's first term (1984-87), significant divisions started to form in the Labour parliamentary caucus, with Lange becoming uncomfortable with the extent of the reforms, while Douglas and Richard Prebble wanted to push on.


As to Andy Kreigler


Andrew Krieger attacked the NZ $ in the Autumn of 1987. Andrew Krieger left the Bankers Trust New York head quarters were he had served as the Global head for foreign exchange in February 1988.

This is all on record because it was a move that set Wall street mouths wagging because Andrew Krieger had become a legend as a result of his daring attack on the NZ $.


So Muldoon Using a Keynesian form of economics , if I remember rightly , uses government spending in the troughs to stilulate consumer spending ,,ie think big

Spent a bit of money , which left the Labour party in a financial hole , which by the end of their first trem they were going devalue , Krieger Speculated ,and lange left because of the pressures brought upon him By the likes of Kerr gibbs and Douglas


Stephen

Snippty Snip ...hows the fire ,,,lots of smoke I can see.......


ey was elected prime minister of New Zealand last weekend after his National Party achieved a crushing victory over the incumbent Labour government of Helen Clark.

The timing of his elevation, in the midst of a financial crisis, may be quite prophetic. After all, Key’s rise to prominence in foreign exchange circles came after he struck a rewarding relationship at Bankers Trust with Andy Krieger, a daring New York-based trader who launched a legendary raid against the NZ dollar in 1987.

Krieger reportedly bet more than the country’s entire money supply against the currency, forcing it down sharply and taking massive profits in what is still described as one of the finest forex plays ever completed.

Key’s role in this raid is not entirely clear. The timing of his arrival at BT suggests he might not have had a great deal to do with it, but he benefited from Krieger’s continuing interest in the currency, which helped Key lift BT to top of the local currency tables and attract interest from international investment banks.

New Zealand’s new leader also knows a lot about job losses, having by his own admission earned the reputation of being the “smiling assassin” during his short stint at the Sydney offices of Merrill Lynch in 2001 when he reportedly helped fire some 500 staff.

[Brian d marge]

I apologise for being somewhat selective with quotes from your post But
I don't remember pre 1984 with any great fondness

A devisive & bullying prime minister, who sent us broke
Wage & price freezes
Unions striking continuously, remember the ferries every school holidays.
A nation still split over the Springbok tour
A government that tried to control every facet of the economy with inport licenses, tarriffs, protections & subsidies

I did like my Hillman Super Minx though, mum hated it & made me park it down the road, It got stolen but the thief left it undamaged in the next suburb.
It was all I could afford , no Jap imports in those days, Those were the days. Yeah right

As an employer I was a hell of a lot better off when I went with the private ACC option that Labour got rid of

Ha I had a Grunta.... green with an AM radio !

Dont get me started on the unions ... I agree with the concept of unions , as that is the only thing the working man has got but unions need to work with the company ,,, the useless bunch of twits we have now need shooting ,, Driving round in a top of the range commodore , and effectively doing nothing AND pulling top wage ,,,is Not a union ,,,nor should anywone pay for these ineffectuals

yes and closed economies ,, Hmmm cant think of one that is doing well ... IF the workforce IS ALREADY UPSKILLED ..ie rocket scientist ,,then its ok to allow cheap manufacturing to enter ,,,but competeing head to head ,,,not if you want to keep the standard of living ... a low wage economey is people who cant spend ,,,

I like spending

I am unfamiliar with the ACC option that labour removed ,,, I had good care when I stacked me Honda 360 into a mini on Columbo st ..back in 82 ish .. ACC worked for me then !



Stephen

[Badjelly]

I'm starting to think the only way were going to get a decent government is a coup d'etat and start shipping all the commie labour/green supporters to gulags.

That's worked well in the past.

[jrandom]

He was. They had good intelligence on the Russians which made them confident enough to keep pushing for the backdown.

Good intelligence that failed to pick up on the fact that the Russians had already deployed 'tactical' battlefield nukes in Cuba already and were considering giving the area commander authority to use them at his discretion without further authorisation from Moscow if an invasion occurred?

The world really did teeter on the brink that time dude, no two ways about it.

[Brian d marge]

Politics,Religion.Really dont want to discuss either.BUT what really pisses me off is those of YOU that originate from another country and have the fucken gumption to run our country down..
If you dont like things in N.Z then FUCK OFF TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM.


like I haven't heard that before ... I like NZ , it hasn't been good to me , made a bucket load more money outside the place , and can follow the life that i want to ... making bike parts ,,,
But I still have a large part of my heart for NZ ,,,and what pisses ME off is people who don't know how good they have things.... wasting it by doing NOTHING ...

The reason ( IMHO) why Nz isnt a bed of roses now ,,, is because a lot of people did NOTHING ..

Did you pay for you own air fee to go to wellington to try and stop the Student loan scheme going through ...I did
did you trapse around the streets handing out leaflet to inform people about Welfare reforms ..I did ..etc etc ...

Our family put up a chunk of money to try and get my mother to run for a seat , not to win but to take votes away from a looney that had a chance to get to the behive ,,, by taking the votes it allowed a better candidate to win ,,,which was better for our comunity ,,,still cost us a chunk of cash...

did you do that?????


While I dont agree with the Moari party ... they have my full support ,,,,because they got off their backside and got what they wanted ...

$13 dollars for a block of cheese

Still, mustnt grumble eh, rugby still of free to air

Stephen

[scumdog]

Well Destiny Church must have some pretty boring parties.

Seriously, I just wanted a party that would scrap the Kyoto crap, this emission trading bs, is going to haunt us long after this perceived recession comes and goes.

Too true young Doc - all this Kyoto protocol crap will cost us money and make sweet f.a, difference to the total universe polution.

And it won't be kind to the dinosaurs I choose to drive....

[alanzs]

Does anyone really, truly believe that big changes are going to occur because of the election? Only time will tell...