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Maybe.Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase
This all proves to me once and for all that it's still the "old boys club". They all band together and cover for each other.
A lawyer once told me that you cant expect common sense in law....and it was true!
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No. I havn't reached your level ofyet.
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Yeah, with this thread full of your personal opinions and attacks on all and sundry, you've FAR exceeded his "level"
I'd say something about your attitude, but you clearly arent listening and will just abuse me anyway, so meh.
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This thread reminds me strongly of other court cases I have been involved in where the accused and their lawyer managed to (quite skilfully sometimes) convince the jury of an innocence that had dissipated many many years prior.
In a number of instances a rather shocked jury has learnt AFTER the verdict of prior history in a similar vein, and I have felt deeply for them as it cannot be an easy job.
The role of the prosecutor is after all, to provide evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is in fact guilty. Being found guilty on anything less than that is a miscarriage of justice.
New evidence could mean a new trial, and possibly a different outcome.
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No fair, the cops did not tell the jury what they 'wanted' them to hear, in reality the prosecution gave all they could legally do so, nothing was held back, the fact Rickards was not found guilty was nothing to with any old boys club, in fact I got the distinct impression they were out to hang Rickards.
And the system that allowed Rickards to walk is the same one that allowed many other 'innocent' defendants to walk free, regardless if they WERE innocant..
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They most certainly were out to get him.
It was a politically motivated prosecution.
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Just a quick observation but...
If you type his name in capitals, ie CLINT and move the I a it closer to the L, what does that give you?
Or, if your eyes are 'cattle trucked' like mine, just move closer to the screen, same effect.
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Oh well done......
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Doh - trials are not bought if there is "no evidence" - deposition hearings root out weak cases. You are making a great leap or assumption to imply no or perhaps you meant insufficient evidence is why Rickards wasn't convicted.
Lawyers spend a lot of time learning how to influence juries by using tactics entirely unrelated to the evidence, ones carefully crafted to diminish the sway evidence has over a jury. And do it with much success.
Rodney King...
Despite a video tape of the crime a jury (of apparently normal IQ and no certified nutters) was convinced not to even believe their own eyes, through use of manipulation of political beliefs like we should support the Police etc.
Rapist defenders (accessories after the fact) usually appeal to the "crazy untrusty woman" prejudice which also entails "objectifying" (reducing ability to relate to). But I suppose in the Rickards case they had a double whammy strategy available, as they could also appeal to the "cops are upstanding" belief system oftyen held by the old codger types who make selves avail for jury service.
I think it has been scientifically proven that the male voice is believed more than a female one. Thats why dog trainers recommend a deeper tone. It explains Helen Clarks persona, and that weird woman in Labours ad pre election intoning in a butch voice that Key shouldn't be trusted.
As far as I'm concerned the jury system is archaic and only as strong as its weakest link. Fancy taxpayers putting millions into trials when it only takes one dickhead on a jury to hold out for innocence. To say a jury found Rickards innocent is weird - who knows - the majority may not have. But juries aren't democracies are they. And some just want their dinner so will eventually back down to the stubborn and perhaps dumbest link. Re "Archaic" - anyone know where they decided the number 12 from - prolly some scientific mideaval reference to the signs of the zodiac or some such hocus pocus.
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I was under the impressioni t has some thing to do with the number of Christ's disicples
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Wikipedia has a useful overview. No commentary on what people might have been thinking a thousand or so years ago when twelve became the traditional number, though. You could well be right.
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What should be noted here is that if you ask enough people that have had any dealings with those scum Rickards,Shipton and co.You will see very quickly just how honourable the fuckers are not.
I personally observed Shipton and others,during a house search throwing a womens panties between each other to "check these out".and making shocking comments,to the point that I was dropped by an officer for my protests concerning there behaviour.
Wouldn't doubt anything bad I hear about these Fucken Mongrels
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yup People do indeed make it up because relationships sour so how can I get back at this bloke...oooo I know Ill say he raped me and drag him through the court system....ultimately more innocent blokes are charged than let off....I`m not saying this happened in this case , but it could have happened.I do indeed believe her word.
You think people like to make this shit up for a laugh??
But just the sort of comments I'd expect to hear from someone who thinks Madonna is hot.
The other ladies are believed, on a hearsay sometimes and the bloke is convicted, has happened b4 and will continue to happen.
Goblin while it may be wrong in your eyes it still doesnt mean that he did it any other way than consensual , unless you were there no one will know, .....you wernt there were you ?.
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Go back and read the thread again. I've already said I wasn't there and what I think of wimen who make false rape complaints.
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