First track crash

**R6_kid:Me** · 15th November 2008, 20:56

Originally Posted by dpex

when some Red-Misted Knob-Jockey (isn't that such a great descriptor?) came outside my left line as I was setting up for a tight-right-hander. Then the prick cut right, right alongside.

Was it a black bike, rider wearing red leathers and black helmet?

**TZ350** · 15th November 2008, 21:58

The accepted rule of the road is " the over taking rider is responsible for completing the maneuver safely" thats safely for both riders. Whatever the skill/ability of the slower rider.

After this incident the person running the meet called another riders meeting and reminded every one of this rule.

dpex being the person over taken has a right to feel offended at being knocked off, it did not need to happen.

When it comes to racing, Knock me off, call me a woos and see what happens to you. Fuckwit.

**SHELRACING** · 15th November 2008, 22:22

Racing on a kart track is a lot harder and more competitive that an lot of riders think.

This sounds like a typical off many of us have had
This was only a practice session. If you're intending to get into racing the you'll need to harden up and be prepared for the ocassional slide.

Originally Posted by dpex

Got invited to have a go on the Bucket circuit today. Holy-Shit!!!

Stepping off 200-something Kgs of Yami onto about 50Kgs of 125 bucket felt like being a weight-lifter trying to dance the Sugar-Plum Fairy in Swan Lake!

Anyway, around I went, trying to down-load some of the characteristics of this pony into my auto-file as quickly as possible, and was just starting to get a glimmer of understanding of the dynamics when some Red-Misted Knob-Jockey (isn't that such a great descriptor?) came outside my left line as I was setting up for a tight-right-hander. Then the prick cut right, right alongside.

Net result? My front wheel tangled with his exhaust, just behind his peg. He squirted off. Dpex did the high-side. Whirled through the air like a pissed helicopter blade, then SPLAT! Face down.

Total damage? Bruised...Ego. One pinky. One thumb. One shoulder. And a bit of neck whiplash. But none enough to remove me from tomorrow's event at Puke.

And did the little weasel who did this come forth and fess up after the event with some weak excuse like, 'Sorry Mate. I thought you wuz Craig Shiriffs so, like I thought you could hack it.' ...or something.

Oh no. The little toad went off and hid. As it happened, nobody was watching at the time, so the little skunk got off Scot-free. But he knows he did it, and will probably believe I can ID him. That should make his miserable life a bit more miserable for a while, as he awaits the call which will never come.

But hey! The good news is. I just had my very first ever bin. In fact, very first-ever accident on anything with wheels. So that's kinda cool.

I feel a bit 'blooded' so to speak.

But Jesus, it happens so quickly, huh? One second you're roaring around, the next you're staring at the ground, doing a quick body check and thinking, "Mother would not approve of this."

Anyway. First bin. Let's hope it's the last for a long time.

**bucketracer** · 16th November 2008, 05:56

Good stuff, Blood! dosen,t much matter whose,s mine, theirs, its the fighting that's fun.

and then theirs other pleasures.

**Buckets4Me** · 16th November 2008, 06:10

Originally Posted by SHELRACING

Racing on a kart track is a lot harder and more competitive that an lot of riders think.

This sounds like a typical off many of us have had
This was only a practice session. If you're intending to get into racing the you'll need to harden up and be prepared for the ocassional slide.

and to be knocked out
left on the side of the track and forgoten
have all you'r food eaten
and bear drunk
yep thats racing anit it

lol thanks for the weekend
hope the head and ribs are getting better
hows the bike coming along straightened it out yet

**SHELRACING** · 16th November 2008, 08:24

Yeah ya rotten bastards, not going to let you forget it either !!!

Originally Posted by Buckets4Me

and to be knocked out
left on the side of the track and forgoten
have all you'r food eaten
and bear drunk
yep thats racing anit it

lol thanks for the weekend
hope the head and ribs are getting better
hows the bike coming along straightened it out yet

**wbks** · 16th November 2008, 08:48

Originally Posted by SHELRACING

If you're intending to get into racing the you'll need to harden up and be prepared for the ocassional slide.

Well obviously I'm not in touch with road race manors so maybe this guy should have apologized but what this guy said ^^^. If every time you get offed by someone else cutting you off or otherwise you make a thread complaining about it...You might need to contact telecom, 10gigs wont be enough...

**SHELRACING** · 16th November 2008, 09:09

Granma here.

Buckets4me.... you are most welcome mate. You guys can come anytime and eat all our food, and drink our beer.

As for the other half.....he's a lot better this weekend and been sent out into the shed again to get on with the repairs.
We have a new set of forks off a CBR600 installed. Thanks to J.S.

Just add my bit too this off incident...shit happens when you are racing. Some riders are very experienced at passing but some are not. Some experienced riders make mistakes and so do inexperienced riders.
Well all I can say from my experiences is 'THAT IS RACING', so dont winge about,

go out there and learn how to take evasive action when you can and ride faster.
If you can handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Sounds like J C had a handle on it and delt with it appropriatley. If he had any inclination that this was deliberate, he would have sent the guilty party packing. For those of us who ride down there on a regular basis, we know this to be true.

**FROSTY:Me** · 16th November 2008, 09:35

Sorry folks I disagree wholeheartedly with the general view here.
1)Rule 6-10 clearly states that the onus is on the overtaking rider to complete the manouver in safety -a variation of that rule is applied to most controlled testing or track days.
2) it was a PRACTICE day --barely one stage above a track day so it wasn't racing. No points to be gained nothing at all to be gained by passing into that corner.
3)Yes the result was basicly a bruise or two but it could have been a shit load worse.Ive cracked my neck being swiped there.
4)Its a matter of common decency to just come up and say sorry or state your side of the story. Yes it is a racetrack so shit as they say does happen -how you deal with the shit afterwards shows your character.
Again -I was well swatted by a rider in almost that exact place-we were racing and he went in too hot and lost the arse end. Thats racing I accept that -no hard feelings (he still bought me a beer later)

I have a mental image from yon "culprits" point of view --I was zappin down the back straight and catching up with a much slower rider -into the sweeper and I'd caught him easily. went wide into the hairpin to give him room and he tapped my back wheel with his front wheel. I think he must have straight lined for too long before turning into the hairpin.

**gav** · 16th November 2008, 22:11

Originally Posted by stanko

officionado ??? dont know what it means, I do have a bucket though, I sometimes crash.

Yip, and sometimes he doesn't even need another rider or even the track to be involved .....

**Kickaha** · 17th November 2008, 05:35

Originally Posted by FROSTY

2) it was a PRACTICE day --barely one stage above a track day so it wasn't racing. No points to be gained nothing at all to be gained by passing into that corner.

No point in fucking about in practice, if you want to learn to race hard then you practice hard

**Buckets4Me** · 17th November 2008, 06:06

I'll remeber that when i get my sidecar going and prang it into you
sorry didn't know you wanted to race as well
bugger about the hurt and injurd swinger but I guess that is what happens in sidecar racing
crash and burn and all
dont worry about safty it's underrated
ACC will fix everything
practice for an endurance race = knock everyone off the day before betcha that gets into there head

**FROSTY:Me** · 17th November 2008, 08:12

Originally Posted by Kickaha

No point in fucking about in practice, if you want to learn to race hard then you practice hard

Kinda defeats the purpose if you're on ya ass.
Yes you practice but save the demon overtaking moves for racing.
actually scratch that --save the demon moves for people going at your own pace.

**dpex** · 17th November 2008, 13:47

Originally Posted by Ixion

Hang on. Your FRONT wheel tangled with his exhaust, just behind the foot peg, you say. So, in fact he was in front of you?

As I read what you say, he passed you on the inside coming into the corner and the you hit him. Rider in front owns the track. Once he was past you, it was up to you to run wide to avoid him.

That's racing. It's about winning. Getting in front. Road rules don't apply.

Sorry, don't see the other rider had anything to apologise for. In fact, you maybe should be apologisng to him for hitting him.

Two things, Ixion. First it wasn't a race, it was practice day. Second, I was ahead when he swept by on the outside and turned into me. Although I asserted my front wheel hit him, it would be more accurate to say his rear parts hit my front wheel.