Freedom of speech.

[raftn]

We are lucky, we live in a country where freedom of speech is allowed, (Some will disagree, but compared to other countries we do). And I am all for it, freedom of expression etc etc.

Which brings me to my point, where do you draw the line when it comes to postings that are racist, derogatory to ones sex, or sexuality, or religion etc.

Don't get me wrong, those who know me know i am a very liberal person, but still at times I find some things posted on this site, "beyond the realms of good taste", Of course some one will tell me to HTFU, but you are missing the point of what i am saying.

I have a pretty good sense of humour, what i find diffucult to understand is when people attack some body simply because of the colour of their skin, who the worship, or who they sleep with.


I was always taught, if you are not prepared to say it to some ones face, then dont say it at all.

Where exactly do we draw the line.........It is very easy to hide behind a key board.

[nodrog:Me]

why do we have to draw a line?

[portokiwi]

Who is a pure bred???? no New Zealanders are.
Me I am like a bag of smartiees. hard on the outside.... nice and soft on the inside and if the need arises I sit on the loo and get rid of the choc

[Forest]

Web forums are the 20th century equivalent of the wall in a public toilet.

I wouldn't worry about it.

[Headbanger]

There are billions of websites that cater for all tastes, Its more a situation where as you can frequent a place that suits rather then insisting everyone else change to suit you.

Even in little old NZ there is a multitude of motorcycle sites to choose from.

[CookMySock]

why do we have to draw a line?

You don't. But you could.

It is like the concept or freedom. Basically, you should be free to conduct yourself in any manner you see fit. And I mean any manner. Now you have freedom.

But what if everyone else chose to do the same? Would their actions infringe upon your rights? Will you still have freedom if they take said actions?

So who gets freedom and who does not? Because on the face of it, no one can truly have freedom since they must either limit their own actions, or else have other people exercising their freedom, overwrite your freedom.

So what is freedom? Absence of control, or absence or interference?

It is plain to a small group of people, they they should, or must, and will, be able to simply do anything they choose, or else their freedom is being curtailed.

It is equally plain to another group, that they should be insulated from a certain group of people, since said group of people continue to interfere with their free and safe passage, and therefor infringe their rights and freedom.

So why does one group get freedom and one group not? The answer is, one is group is stronger than the next, and they will simply wrest their freedom at all costs.

There are two ways to freedom. Either buy a gun, or accept that your actions cannot infringe the rights of others, lest you revoke their rights to freedom, and demand your own.

Steve

[nodrog:Me]

You don't. But you could.

It is like the concept or freedom. Basically, you should be free to conduct yourself in any manner you see fit. And I mean any manner. Now you have freedom.

But what if everyone else chose to do the same? Would their actions infringe upon your rights? Will you still have freedom if they take said actions?

So who gets freedom and who does not? Because on the face of it, no one can truly have freedom since they must either limit their own actions, or else have other people exercising their freedom, overwrite your freedom.

So what is freedom? Absence of control, or absence or interference?

It is plain to a small group of people, they they should, or must, and will, be able to simply do anything they choose, or else their freedom is being curtailed.

It is equally plain to another group, that they should be insulated from a certain group of people, since said group of people continue to interfere with their free and safe passage, and therefor infringe their rights and freedom.

So why does one group get freedom and one group not? The answer is, one is group is stronger than the next, and they will simply wrest their freedom at all costs.

There are two ways to freedom. Either buy a gun, or accept that your actions cannot infringe the rights of others, lest you revoke their rights to freedom, and demand your own.

Steve

what?

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[Duke girl]

This world we live in is made up of all different types of cultures and thats what makes it interesting. Freedom of choice can be looked at in a couple of different ways. You have those who go out of their way to say what ever to who ever about things that they know is going to upset those they are expressing themselves to and dont care about doing so, then you have those who are careful in what they talk about in front of whoever, as these type of people have concideration about what they say to whom.
I judge people for who they are and not what they are nor their colour, so when it comes to freedom of choice its really up to the individual themselves in how the go about conducting it.

[boomer]

what?

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lollies.. teh man needs help...

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

where do you draw the line when it comes to postings that are racist, derogatory to ones sex, or sexuality, or religion etc.

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Where exactly do we draw the line.........It is very easy to hide behind a key board.

easy... read the site rules...

[Hitcher]

This thread is nothing without pictures.

[James Deuce]

Freedom of speech is an illusion perpetrated by the Capitalist purveyors of the biggest crimes against Humanity of the 21st Century: Information and Entertainment.

[jrandom]

Free speech is only the stuff you can't be charged for.

[Katman]

My tourettes lets me get away with anything.

[Badjelly]

You sound like you've got something on your mind, raftn, other than general banalities about freedom of speech. Why don't you tell us what it is? Then again, why don't you just ignore whatever it is and move on.

There was a pretty offensive racist joke posted today, but I treated it the way I treat spam in my inbox. I ignore and forget it. Actually, I've already forgotten it. What joke?