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    I've just had a 1/2 hour meeting with some helpful people at the bank.

    The bank said they need the responsibility to stop with 1 person...they were concern that if 25 people put money into a comunal account, and then a couple decided they want out...agreements have already been made, the banks reputation is ruined blah blah blah.

    We would ensure that payment was dependant upon inspection of the goods. Transactions would be done through an international branch of a reputable bank. It would be written into the clause that payment would not be made to the leather manufacturer if the inspection was not favourable. Inspection would be undertaken by a large international company on our behalf, but in Pakistan prior to shipment of goods.

    Therefore, those who put money up, and the quality is bad, lose only a proportion of the fee for inspection services and bank fees.

    They are unlikely to ship goods without payment...I haven't even asked them about inspections and payment options yet? So we may have hit a brick wall but then again, we might just be making a little progress (slowly does it)

    Phew...what a mission

    I have just edited this post and taken out some of the finer details, the last thing we want is a shop or company etc. to get in ahead of us and then we all lose out on a good deal.

    To make things clear, I am not making a business venture out of this, purely hoping to get a few cheaper leathers for me and those who are keen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat_lgf

    Phew...what a mission
    But just to let you know, everyone here will appreciate it to the max when we have our leathers... you wont have to buy a beer for ages!!!!!


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    Bloody hell, you don't muck around do you!
    Looks like TradeNZ might be a bit out of touch on this matter, though that surprises me. Do you mind if I copy your post and send it off to them? I'd be interested to see their feedback. The impression they gave is that you can stipulate the terms in the contract... If the goods can be inspected in Pakistan then at least both sides are saved a lot of hassle if they're not up to standard.
    As for the charges mounting up, I know I'd rather pay a bit more and have some peace of mind. They'll still be very cheap by our standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    Plus, if you pull it off, I'm sure you'll get the odd beer thrown your way too!
    Actually - I think the worry is that it all turns to custard and beers are still thrown his way - unopened ones from 30 m...

    One solution...

    We all chip in for one set for an individual who agrees to buy them if they are acceptable and we don't collectively face much of a loss if they are not.

    Say, $300 for leathers. 10 people risk $30?

    Paul N

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    Actually - I think the worry is that it all turns to custard and beers are still thrown his way - unopened ones from 30 m...
    lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    One solution...

    We all chip in for one set for an individual who agrees to buy them if they are acceptable and we don't collectively face much of a loss if they are not.

    Say, $300 for leathers. 10 people risk $30?

    Paul N
    I think they could pull the trick mentioned earlier with something like that tho - buy/send something decent as a 'sample' then send crap to follow.
    But that example was for custom stuff wasn't it, not for off the rack stuff as this appears to be. We're just buying direct from the factory, aren't we..?? Or have I missed something?
    I think a single garment might not prove what the 'batch' order would come over like..

    Only one thing for it - Wilcat, you're going to have to go over there and make them yourself. We'll pay you a couple of hundred bucks each, and a few beers, then we know we're getting good quality..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    lmao

    Only one thing for it - Wilcat, you're going to have to go over there and make them yourself. We'll pay you a couple of hundred bucks each, and a few beers, then we know we're getting good quality..
    Sweet! I'm not half bad at skinning a cow or two and I'm sure I work out which way the sewing machine goes no guarantees I could stitch together anything that resembeld something other than a square though!

    Yeah no worries Tony if you want to ask TradeNZ about what I've written...if they insist they are right it still might be difficult to get Pakistan to agree to it? Whereas if they are legit they can't really refuse a SGS inspection can they?

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    Dont know if this has been brought up, but what about paypal?

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    Hey Timber020, I don't know much (or anything) about Paypal, someone else might have a better idea, however they might start getting shirty if we try and adjust all their proceedures?

    Ok it's late so this is going to be quick...just got a reply from Belpak - I haven't gone through it yet...why? Because its late...I'm just cutting and pasting some other details that came through on the email...

    I'll fire off a quick email to them, try and push my luck see if I can get some references or contact details from people outside Pakistan they supply to (Bank managers suggested it - who thought they would be helpful )

    Email details:

    Colors & Sizes:

    The products can be ordered in Black , Red, Blue, Yellow, Kawasaki Green ,
    Grey , Silver and White combination. For the sizes, our normal pricing
    structure covers the sizes from XS to 2XL. Any additional sizes required
    are charged additional 10% of the normal pricing structure.

    Removable Lining:

    Removable lining is already available in our cordura jackets. However,
    additional lining in leather jackets can be added

    For leather suits, only Fixed Mesh lining is popular, though, removable
    liner in the jackets part of the suits can be added as well.

    Women Clothing:
    Currently, all our designs are based on Men's fittings. However, women
    fittings can be made and requested as well for any styles.

    Armours:

    CE armours for jackets additional cost (minimal) ( Shoulders & Elbows )
    CE armours for suits additional cost (minimal) ( Shoulders, Elbows, Knees )

    Non-CE armours for jackets additional cost (minimal) ( Shoulders & Elbows )
    Non-CE armours for suits additional cost (minimal) ( Shoulders, Elbows & Knees )

    Back protector = Standard ( non-CE )
    Thigh protector = Standard ( non- CE )

    Removable Knee Sliders:

    FOB price = Euro 2-00 per pair

    Currently all prices are Euro but they said they could arrange US dollars later on if its more convienient and once we are ordering large volumes regularly.

    Alrighty I'm off for some much needed beauty sleep.

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    Ok this is where we currently stand...we are waiting for some references from others who have delt with the company.

    We are still waiting to hear if they will agree to our terms of payment and inspections etc...

    Until we get both an agreement for inspections etc, and some +ve references we wait...I know your all itching to get a good cheap set of leathers, but there is no point risking alot of money without doing all the research first!

    I'll keep you all updated, feel free to PM me if you like, but be assured you'll all be the first to know...

    Cheers

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    How did you guys go with the leathers
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    Sorry bit of a dumb question... what is CE armour? I know what armour is, and thats always a good idea but does the "CE" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by placidfemme
    Sorry bit of a dumb question... what is CE armour? I know what armour is, and thats always a good idea but does the "CE" mean?
    CE armour is protective armour (effectively hard plastic armour) that meets the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) standards as set out by the European Commission EN13595. Basically it means it has been tested to withstand impact and provide adequate protection and hence can be classed as PPE. The standards are set I believe in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat_lgf
    CE armour is protective armour (effectively hard plastic armour) that meets the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) standards as set out by the European Commission EN13595. Basically it means it has been tested to withstand impact and provide adequate protection and hence can be classed as PPE. The standards are set I believe in Europe.
    Awesome, thank you. Wouldn't that be a given then? Why wouldn't you buy gear that is made to protect you?

    I'll find out my size and my partners size for the jackets

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    Quote Originally Posted by placidfemme
    Awesome, thank you. Wouldn't that be a given then? Why wouldn't you buy gear that is made to protect you?

    I'll find out my size and my partners size for the jackets
    The CE standard is not universally accepted but it seems to be the default here. As for sizes, you might wanna wait until we all get what we thought we the right thing and see how that worked out.

    If you can hook up with someone near you that has got something from this shipment you can check the quality of the actual product vs the picture as well.

    Cheers

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    Oh ok. I'll wait a while then thanks

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