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    I can see the crossover and VE table but adjustments in them have no effect, Ecotrons has told me that they turn them off for 2T's.

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    Last Sunday, Zayne and Av battle it out for the Super Light TT win at Hampton Downs. The camera is on the front of Zaynes bike, Av in Red & White leathers.
    Factual Facts are based on real Fact and Universal Truths. Alternative Facts by definition are not based on Truth.

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    I mention this as its a pet hate of mine and every bike or kart rider I deal with get told in no uncertain terms about blipping the downchange.
    We have speed shifters that give seamless power up thru the box, to then virtually lock the rear wheel on every downchange ( even with using the clutch )
    is criminal, not only wreaking the dogs in the box, but upsetting the chassis balance on every corner entry.
    Watch another Kiwi doing the job at the TT, at about 1min 6 he drops down the box, blipping every downchange, keeping the rear wheel planted and the chassis straight.
    Just trying to help.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7P7OkTCDI
    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Info for Rich re the NSR300.
    Just got the first cylinder back from having the chrome off and boring for the 60mm Wossner piston based on RS125.
    Here is pic at BDC.
    Also pics of YZ125 bored for the same piston, with rad added to duct entry.
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    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    60mm Wossner piston based on RS125.
    Is that part No. 8143D400?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    I mention this as its a pet hate of mine and every bike or kart rider I deal with get told in no uncertain terms about blipping the downchange.
    We have speed shifters that give seamless power up thru the box, to then virtually lock the rear wheel on every downchange ( even with using the clutch )
    is criminal, not only wreaking the dogs in the box, but upsetting the chassis balance on every corner entry.
    Watch another Kiwi doing the job at the TT, at about 1min 6 he drops down the box, blipping every downchange, keeping the rear wheel planted and the chassis straight.
    Just trying to help.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7P7OkTCDI
    At Taumarunui Bucket meet at the kart track I mentioned (nicely) that the rear end of a chap was sliding around every downchange into a sweeper with the follow up to be settling the platform, just gentle advice because I'm a nice guy (& also I didn't want him falling off while I was trying to get my 50 around his 150 in the all in races) & was informed that he didn't mind the rear moving around & that he rode his R1 race bike that way, obviously and almost aggressively implying that if you race an R1 you must know it all. Yeah ok, mental note- don't talk to that guy, & always pass on the inside.
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastFred View Post
    Last Sunday, Zayne and Av battle it out for the Super Light TT win at Hampton Downs. The camera is on the front of Zaynes bike, Av in Red & White leathers.
    It was quite the finish! Zayne had no answer to the extra speed of Av's bike

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    Close racing, though the method of downshifting doesn't make it pretty to watch. I'm with Wobbly on this one.

    The engine is not a brake.

    Funny how better riders make bikes seem faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbastd View Post
    Funny how better riders make bikes seem faster.
    In a straight line? Not taking anything away from how well Avalon is riding but she clearly has a few more horse in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    At Taumarunui Bucket meet at the kart track I mentioned (nicely) that the rear end of a chap was sliding around every downchange into a sweeper with the follow up to be settling the platform, just gentle advice because I'm a nice guy (& also I didn't want him falling off while I was trying to get my 50 around his 150 in the all in races) & was informed that he didn't mind the rear moving around & that he rode his R1 race bike that way, obviously and almost aggressively implying that if you race an R1 you must know it all. Yeah ok, mental note- don't talk to that guy, & always pass on the inside.
    if we had the time to blip the gas i would loss a second a lap on a small track , you 2 stroke girls have it easy , face it your barrals don't last like are gearbox's so who cares (-;

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    Dont talk utter bollocks, a 125 kart goes down 5 gears into a hairpin in LESS than 1/2 the time you have, with a clean blip into every gear with NO clutch needed.
    If your throttle connection is that shit it wont blip fast enough, then stop just ridding it haphazardly, and start doing some meaningful carb testing.
    The kart chassis stops straighter with way more rear brake bias and the lap times go down around 6/10s ( yes around Mt Welly ) in a back to back using FULL datalogging running everything from longitudinal and lateral
    G force to throttle position and tyre inner edge temp using remote lasers.
    You bucket guys do Jack Shit in comparison to the data HAVE we use regularly to win National and World Titles in karts.
    Tell me what the difference is between what you are doing and Anstey blipping every change from 320Ks down to 50Ks at the TT.
    And funnily enough Moto GP sees fit to use the ECU to lift the revs automatically, so well , on the downchange that it makes a slipper clutch redundant.
    Any other relevant excuses - end of rant.
    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    Dont talk utter bollocks, a 125 kart goes down 5 gears into a hairpin in LESS than 1/2 the time you have, with a clean blip into every gear with NO clutch needed.
    If your throttle connection is that shit it wont blip fast enough, then stop just ridding it haphazardly, and start doing some meaningful carb testing.
    The kart chassis stops straighter with way more rear brake bias and the lap times go down around 6/10s ( yes around Mt Welly ) in a back to back using FULL datalogging running everything from longitudinal and lateral
    G force to throttle position and tyre inner edge temp using remote lasers.
    You bucket guys do Jack Shit in comparison to the data HAVE we use regularly to win National and World Titles in karts.
    Tell me what the difference is between what you are doing and Anstey blipping every change from 320Ks down to 50Ks at the TT.
    And funnily enough Moto GP sees fit to use the ECU to lift the revs automatically, so well , on the downchange that it makes a slipper clutch redundant.
    End of rant.
    Settle pettle....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    Info for Rich re the NSR300.
    Just got the first cylinder back from having the chrome off and boring for the 60mm Wossner piston based on RS125.
    Here is pic at BDC.
    Also pics of YZ125 bored for the same piston, with rad added to duct entry.
    Cheers Mate. Thats way less piston peaking through at BDC. And yes my stock barrels will be getting a radius in the duct. Need to find time to pull the thing down. Wish I was at the nationals this weekend but work needs to come first. The other 300 will be on track though. It will be interesting to see the straight line speed of that bike. 83 at the wheel and 115kg. It will be quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    Dont talk utter bollocks, a 125 kart goes down 5 gears into a hairpin in LESS than 1/2 the time you have, with a clean blip into every gear with NO clutch needed.
    If your throttle connection is that shit it wont blip fast enough, then stop just ridding it haphazardly, and start doing some meaningful carb testing.
    The kart chassis stops straighter with way more rear brake bias and the lap times go down around 6/10s ( yes around Mt Welly ) in a back to back using FULL datalogging running everything from longitudinal and lateral
    G force to throttle position and tyre inner edge temp using remote lasers.
    You bucket guys do Jack Shit in comparison to the data HAVE we use regularly to win National and World Titles in karts.
    Tell me what the difference is between what you are doing and Anstey blipping every change from 320Ks down to 50Ks at the TT.
    And funnily enough Moto GP sees fit to use the ECU to lift the revs automatically, so well , on the downchange that it makes a slipper clutch redundant.
    Any other relevant excuses - end of rant.
    have not seen anstey on any kart tracks lately , big tracks are quite different!!

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    Personally I was impressed by Av's slip-streaming sling shot from behind to take the win.

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