ESE's works engine tuner

[mr bucketracer]

Thanks to TZ and Fast Fred for the help on the Dyno, we got the 50 running last night with the new insert head and it made more power but something odd happened to the rev range, previously it revved to around 14000, if we can get those back it should be pretty quick

holy cow , must be some high com?

[Flettner]

Anybody know if the Ryger engine is something that is still promised to come about, or is it a dead deal, or still an unknown ?

Still unknown, but I think from what I've scavenged, the engine is capable of a high HP/RPM but is unreliable. I heard 100% failures but thats just hearsay. I think perhaps Luc spoke up too soon. Now I understand Ryger/Luc are away somewhere quiet, refineing ,trying to get it reliable, perhaps what should have been done in the first place.
Or, the above statment is just Bullshit, who am I to say.

[TZ350]

What's the new model weigh in at, compared to the former Yamaha chassis'ed Beast

Not had it on the scales yet but would be bitterly disappointing if its not a lot less than the old Beast which was in the high 90's from memory.

I haven't noticed from any pics but are the bottom of the transfers in the crancase more gently curving with the wider bottom end of the LC6SP110 engine.

A is the normal layout but the NSR cylinder transfers are narrower than the GP cases. So I was thinking something like B that way I get to keep all the extra crankcase volume. No idea if its a good plan or not.

[cotswold]

[QUOTE=TZ350;1130960230]Not had it on the scales yet but would be bitterly disappointing if its not a lot less than the old Beast which was in the high 90's from memory.



Koff koff 105kg on the scales at Taumaranui koff

[richban]

So I have had this software for a week now.

Read all the help info and used the sample files. Yeah well thats all good.

Plugged in the info for the 300. People rave about this software and what it can do, but they don't mention the down sides.

I don't sleep anymore. I just want to do one more run, one more pipe change! What if I richen it up at 12K? Holly shit people! Crack is less addictive. I have a problem!

[Grumph]

So I have had this software for a week now.

Read all the help info and used the sample files. Yeah well thats all good.

Plugged in the info for the 300. People rave about this software and what it can do, but they don't mention the down sides.

I don't sleep anymore. I just want to do one more run, one more pipe change! What if I richen it up at 12K? Holly shit people! Crack is less addictive. I have a problem!

Your brother was the same...I'd go in there and it didn't look like he'd got any sleep running sims....there's an addictive gene in there somewhere IMO.

[41juergen]

But the good thing is: you pay once and can get the kick as much you want for free, no need to ask the dealer every time....

[TZ350]

Sorted the mystery electrical problem and gave Mr.Bigglesworth a trot on the dyno.



Initially it would only run up to about 8.500 rpm. It was a bit of a puzzle for a while, spent a bit of time messing with the best of the old maps and advanced EFI settings until I realised it was an ignition soft limiter starting at 8K and hard limit at 8.5k (Blue line).

Once it was sorted it would run on to near 13K (Red line). The best I have had from this cylinder is 28 rwhp with a carb and 29 fuel injected. The gearbox diaphragm oil pump worked a treat. It will be interesting to see where we get to with the gearbox dry sump arrangement and if more power gets to the back wheel now that there is not a lot of oil to churn around.

Hopefully get to try the new map sometime next week.

[richban]

Your brother was the same...I'd go in there and it didn't look like he'd got any sleep running sims....there's an addictive gene in there somewhere IMO.

Funny. Yeah I know. He has been addicted much longer than I. It's great software. Now time to build what its telling me.

[breezy]

Still unknown, but I think from what I've scavenged, the engine is capable of a high HP/RPM but is unreliable. I heard 100% failures but thats just hearsay. I think perhaps Luc spoke up too soon. Now I understand Ryger/Luc are away somewhere quiet, refineing ,trying to get it reliable, perhaps what should have been done in the first place.
Or, the above statment is just Bullshit, who am I to say.

nice bit of fishing but no bites yet

[twotempi]

[QUOTE=cotswold;1130960234]

Not had it on the scales yet but would be bitterly disappointing if its not a lot less than the old Beast which was in the high 90's from memory.



Koff koff 105kg on the scales at Taumaranui koff

Isn't 105 kg just another way of saying "very high nineties" !!

[lodgernz]

Not had it on the scales yet but would be bitterly disappointing if its not a lot less than the old Beast which was in the high 90's from memory.

I'm pretty sure you know this, but you don't have to go to the track to weigh your bike. Do it at home using bathroom scales. Put scales under front wheel and record weight, then switch to back and repeat. Add together. Gives you the balance bias too. To be be totally accurate, the wheel not being weighed should be sitting on a bit of wood the same height as the scales to eliminate any horizontal vector.

[Flettner]

nice bit of fishing but no bites yet

Perhaps I'm using the wrong bait? I should put some REAL bait on the hook

[TZ350]

Not had it on the scales yet but would be bitterly disappointing if its not a lot less than the old Beast which was in the high 90's from memory.

Koff koff 105kg on the scales at Taumaranui koff

Hmmm I knew the Beast was weighty, just could not remember how much. Sort of good news because the new bike has surely got to be lighter than that. Monday I might get to try Lodgernz's idea with the bathroom scales.

[Haufen]

Anybody know if the Ryger engine is something that is still promised to come about, or is it a dead deal, or still an unknown ?

I guess that depends on who you ask. From the ryger side one keeps hearing "just a couple more weeks, be patient etc." every couple of weeks. The latest status including Jan's interpretation of the situation is on Pit-Lane, afaik.

Regarding the emissions claim, it turned out that the emission values of the ryger can easily be halved by BRPs E-Tec engines, which are into mass production for quite a while now. And this is without having to run as lean as on that ryger emission printout.