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    come on Kick...
    who really cares if THIS bike would be legal or not...

    it would be great to see it on a track near us....

    it would only be a problem if it wins... but then again if 3 or more were made, they could have thier own class..


    what a ride so far!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajturbo View Post
    come on Kick...
    who really cares if THIS bike would be legal or not...
    Probably most people who build their bikes within the rules

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    it would be great to see it on a track near us....
    yeah it would, although I haven't seen any I know there have been supercharged bikes built before

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    it would only be a problem if it wins...
    So you won't mind me running methanol or running a 175-200cc bike or anything else outside the rules after all it'll only be a problem it it wins
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    so you are getting worried that we will bring a superchared fzr 100 with a startermotor running the supercharger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckets4Me View Post
    so you are getting worried that we will bring a superchared fzr 100 with a startermotor running the supercharger

    SO far not to many of the NI guys have shown we have much to be worried about
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    The rules quite clearly set an overall capacity limit, if you have two motors regardless of whether one is driving a supercharger or not you will be over it,
    The rules quite clearly state that you can only have a supercharged 4-stroke motor of less than 100cc.

    And the intent of the rule is clear, its so you can run a motorcycle powered with a supercharged 4-stroke engine in F4 if you want to.

    They do not say the supercharger has to be driven by the motorcycles own motor, what if it was driven by a rubber band or an electric motor or a turbo charger fired by LPG, or an external heat engine like a sterling engine or from a big bottle of compressed air or nitrous oxide, or off the rear wheel or by the rider peddling a bicycle crank or blown with an old forge bellows operated by the rider vigorously clenching their butt cheeks together. There are so many possibilities.

    An internal heat engine, what makes that different to the other ways of spinning the supercharger?

    Anyway I might enjoy a robust debate with MNZ, and as much as we like to play with things that are a bit out there, just for shits and giggles mind............... team ESE would never compete with something that wasn't accepted by the majority of riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    SO far not to many of the NI guys have shown we have much to be worried about
    That,s true, there are some pretty good bikes and riders down south...............but we are working on it and would love to get out on the longer SI tracks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajturbo View Post
    come on Kick... who really cares if THIS bike would be legal or not...

    it would only be a problem if it wins...
    Well it won't ever be a problem if I am the one riding it.........

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    just do it...!!!

    and wind OLD Kick up ..!!!


    what a ride so far!!!!

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    Another possibility is a turbo with nitrous oxide for low end boost before the turbo spools up..........

    Nitrous is within the present fuel rules as its not a fuel but an oxidant that allows more fuel to be burnt, just like the extra air from a supercharger does.......

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    geeze bucket racer how many fzrs do you need?!hhaha
    whats you limit cause if its more than i can afford il stop bidding now and leave u to it

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    Team ESE use Bucketracers account for stuff on Trademe...

    Autobid of $367

    We wont bid any more......

    Finishes shortly Good luck

    Are you going to build a bucket?

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    pretty sure I don't have that much, will see how it goes. Yeap i was out there last month on my yb100 but wanting a lil somthing else that i can build up that might handle just a little bit better and i can build with a 125 two stroke.
    gunna head out there now for a bit of a slide around in the wet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    SO far not to many of the NI guys have shown we have much to be worried about
    I was thinking with a spare crankcase machined right down & bolted with slimline laybrinth seal to the 50 cases with another RG barrel & pressed crank would still fit in the RS chassis. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    I was thinking with a spare crankcase machined right down & bolted with slimline laybrinth seal to the 50 cases with another RG barrel & pressed crank would still fit in the RS chassis. . .
    Will that be ready before or after you finish your 100cc bike?
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Touche. But you get my drift & I just thought of it on the spot. I almost clambered downstairs to measure my spare cases. But after riding Diesel's 100 that was weapon enough & it ain't powerful.
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