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    Running a spacer plate with a gasket on each side I have had nothing but trouble with excessive crush .
    I now use grey case glue between the case and the alloy spacer,then use a single gasket to set the squish.

    Re the KTM Aux port shape - DONT widen the bottom of the triangle , all this does is increase the vertical short circuiting from the A port.
    Widen the top and square it up.
    But doing this ( as well as lifting the main to increase the stagger ) will increase the Blowdown STA - then you would need to work on the transfers to get the balance back.
    In TM kart cylinders I regularly have to drop the cylinder alot to get the Aux and or one of the transfers in the right place - then grind all the other ports up to get everything correct.
    Bastard of a job , but hey , thats what wins races.
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    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Why engine don't react on changing ing.curve !!!!!! ( in engmod no problem )
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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    Running a spacer plate with a gasket on each side I have had nothing but trouble with excessive crush . I now use grey case glue between the case and the alloy spacer,then use a single gasket to set the squish.
    Exactly what we do too. Seal the spacer plate to the cases with YamaBond. Then set the squish with a base gasket.

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    Ha Ha, very good question Dutch.
    To me that KTM STA file tells it all , we have the very latest cylinder from a respected manufacturer and guess what - its a fuckup.
    The Aux ports are WAY to high , the ignition curve is seriously useless ,and all the transfers open together. ( Yamaha have done the same with the 2018 YZ125 ).
    Maybe all the good 2T engineers have retired .
    So looking deeper I would bet the PV is all wrong , and as I already know ,the smaller engines have serious issues with the A port angles.
    Thus - with everything you look at being off base , am I surprised changing the ignition curve does nothing - Na I would be surprised if it did work.
    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    And is there a spacer increasing volume and allowing 6 speed space?
    Na .... not that engine, you are thinking of this engine.

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    The one I have been experimenting with fuel injection on and which has all the bells and whistles.

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    Currently I am setting it up with a multi toothed flywheel for a different fuel injection systems ECU. The flywheel/generator is from a direct injection Aprilia SR50. I hope the flywheel holds together at 14,000 rpm.

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    i thought of welding the spacer to the cyl but never got around to it. gluing it to the cases seems like it would work fine. at the moment im using a gasket on either side and it hasnt given me any trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchpower View Post
    Totaly different partno. '16 50439031000 '17 50439131000

    Hense the reason the older box likes head cut.
    Didn't know that. Good info

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    New ktm 105 cylinder i showed.
    Low chart is normal fmf pipe most mx guys will buy
    Cause it cheap and.hey fmf the best. Ya right .

    One of my pipes red . Engine is box stock/28mm


    Ktm redid tranfers/little less ex port volume
    And dropped the subs to 91 and dropped the port timing
    Doesn't have 3pv. Only one main.

    Port Mods to come.

    how much is less short circuiting/Aport and i imagine cfd designed tranfer tunnels and lower subs helped the midrange.
    that's the question
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax View Post
    Thanks Im only going up 2mm and so it makes it a little tricky to make. I have a laser cutter so i can cut plastic if i want. I was looking for a good plastic to use
    Will your laser not cut ali?

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    New tool to play with, super finishing then impinging with stealth coat. Basically super smooth and impregnated with slippery shit.

    Developed by NASA for lube in outer space. Now used extensively in Formula 1 and NASCAR and Indy for greatly improved engine/gearbox reliability.

    Boring I know, but this is also great for plastic dies and screw injectors too.

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    What's stealth coat?

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    Dazz just did the transmission on Dennis 400 Superlight with the lube coating as well as a TM piston for me to dyno test the result.
    He did the ring and small end pin as well.
    Be interesting to see the result.
    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
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    New tool to play with, super finishing then impinging with stealth coat. Basically super smooth and impregnated with slippery shit.

    Developed by NASA for lube in outer space. Now used extensively in Formula 1 and NASCAR and Indy for greatly improved engine/gearbox reliability.

    Boring I know, but this is also great for plastic dies and screw injectors too.
    What’s the details on this slippery shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    Running a spacer plate with a gasket on each side I have had nothing but trouble with excessive crush .
    I now use grey case glue between the case and the alloy spacer,then use a single gasket to set the squish.

    Re the KTM Aux port shape - DONT widen the bottom of the triangle , all this does is increase the vertical short circuiting from the A port.
    Widen the top and square it up.
    But doing this ( as well as lifting the main to increase the stagger ) will increase the Blowdown STA - then you would need to work on the transfers to get the balance back.
    In TM kart cylinders I regularly have to drop the cylinder alot to get the Aux and or one of the transfers in the right place - then grind all the other ports up to get everything correct.
    Bastard of a job , but hey , thats what wins races.
    Thanks Wobbly. I wouldn’t dream of taking more off the bottom aux, I’ve been learking around here too long to fall into that. Although I was surprised that you didn’t say I could widen the aux ports more, but I guess that would be too much and maybe not as beneficial, especially because of not having plugs for the wrist pin.

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    The " slippery shit " is what Micro Blue use on bearing races after super polishing.
    Developed by NASA , Dazz has the got the rights to apply this coating here in NZ - only just got the sign off on the process.
    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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