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    Its making that 4 stroke look pretty shabby. Nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave - Sub port very close to the transfer tops.




    Should be OK, here's a picture of the RSW125 ports for comparison.

    Attachment 231339
    I'm not one with a propensity for swearing; but look at those cunting mother ball slapping fukn ex sub ports.

    Jiminy Cricket they are big.

    I suppose when you don't care about what happens at 10,000, short ccting isn't an issue.
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    Yes, dead right the STA numbers havnt changed at all since the theoretical work was published out of Queens in Belfast by Blair etal.

    But Thiels comments about the ports is a bit misleading really.
    Aprilia completely changed the whole layout from previous 3 port geometry.
    Instead of the main port being right at the 72% limit, they reduced this to 68% and dropped the main transfers below the rest.This enabled the large secondary Ex ports to be added, plus gave room to pull all the transfers around and create more area with less timing.
    What this lead the way with,is being shown all the time now in the sims I run, that the Ex STA means jack shit,Blow STA is everything.
    The powervalve cranks up the power at 10,000, but despite what Frits says about reeds not working well at low rpm/WOT operation, the KTM and Honda factory engines still nailed the Aprilia/Derby with off corner acceleration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    Faw...rk ... Attachment 231402 ... a 25hp 4-stroker with a long liner power spread, now what am I going to do?????
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    Well, yes, good idea, by hand feeding it bits of FXR, the taste for blood could make the Monster GP go harder ......

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    Dad's got me and Thomas dialling in his bike on the dyno.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    Blue = new side port cylinder, Red = Old cylinder

    Starting to clean the power curve up nicely but the clutch slip has come back......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucketracer View Post
    Dad's got me and Thomas dialling in his bike on the dyno.

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    Blue = new side port cylinder, Red = Old cylinder

    Starting to clean the power curve up nicely but the clutch slip has come back......
    So close to the magic number. Nice work. It would be interesting to do a back to back with my bike when the new engine is back in.

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    Comparing costs/hrs involved would be interesting too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Comparing costs/hrs involved would be interesting too.
    might be interesting but not really relavent, you cant win a race on a three legged horse, some people think thats what buckets are supposed to be , but they wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    you cant win a race on a three legged horse
    What if it was a race for three legged horses?
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    might be interesting but not really relavent, you cant win a race on a three legged horse, some people think thats what buckets are supposed to be , but they wrong
    I think it's entirely relevant.

    For those that aren't clued up on the ins and outs of building competition engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Comparing costs/hrs involved would be interesting too.
    cost hours devided by 4 bikes is not all that much

    but it's the ideas you need !

    and being open minded about new idears
    (that copper dosent look so silly now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Comparing costs/hrs involved would be interesting too.
    I was more thinking of comparing dynos. They are not all created equal.

    Cost/hours just equals lots. Best not think about that. Its all just fun playing with motors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richban View Post
    So close to the magic number. Nice work. It would be interesting to do a back to back with my bike when the new engine is back in.
    that would be telling indead
    and if your bike is ever up this way I'm sure they would love to put it on the dyno and see what the difference realy is

    I'm sure there would be a few interested people out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Comparing costs/hrs involved would be interesting too.
    230+ pages is a bit of a clue.........

    It always seems to cost more than it should and take longer than one wants, but once we have figured it out, making copies for the rest of the team is usually much quicker and fairly easy.

    Books and the net have been explored for pointers and anything seemingly worth while posted here.

    All the cost and effort is in following up on ideas sorting out the good ones.

    The engine and chassis work has mostly been done with basic hand tools, the sort of thing a home handyman might have.

    And everything we have done has been posted on this thread, so pretty much anyone interested in 2-Strokes can copy it if they want to.

    For us things started to move ahead when we realised the importance of BlowDown-Time-Area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    230+ pages is a bit of a clue.........

    It always seems to cost more than it should and take longer than one wants, but once we have figured it out, making copies for the rest of the team is usually much quicker and fairly easy.

    Books and the net have been explored for pointers and anything seemingly worth while posted here.

    All the cost and effort is in following up on ideas looking for the good ones.

    The engine and chassis work has mostly been done with basic hand tools.

    And everything we have done has been posted on this thread, so pretty much anyone interested in 2-Strokes can copy it if they want to.

    For us things started to move ahead when we realised the importance of BlowDown-Time-Area.
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