ESE's works engine tuner

**kel** · 11th February 2011, 11:51

Teezee, thought you might enjoy this - Hubert Rigal's TZ collection

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but wait, its not just TZ's in his collection

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**wobbly** · 11th February 2011, 12:13

I have just got an email from Frits Overmars, someone told him I had said that a few of the things he and Jan were saying was not right or misleading in some way.
He has offered to "tell me everything" so of course I asked for the very latest Aprilia pipe designs for 125 and 250 - he said yes of course, if I proved that the Sim worked as well as I said it did..
No problem there at all, so WooHooo, now I have a direct line into the real factory info.
Cant wait, and ultimately you guys will benefit in the engines we build.

**kel** · 11th February 2011, 13:47

Originally Posted by wobbly

I have just got an email from Frits Overmars, someone told him I had said that a few of the things he and Jan were saying was not right or misleading in some way.
He has offered to "tell me everything" so of course I asked for the very latest Aprilia pipe designs for 125 and 250 - he said yes of course, if I proved that the Sim worked as well as I said it did..
No problem there at all, so WooHooo, now I have a direct line into the real factory info.
Cant wait, and ultimately you guys will benefit in the engines we build.

Nah your having us on???
No one is challenging Frits and Jans statements on their forum, we graciously listen.

Frits certainly seems like the type of guy that would happily share info to advance the understanding of two strokes of all that are prepared to listen, perhaps we could encourage him to directly post here?

**TZ350** · 11th February 2011, 17:43

The boys have done a good job dialing it in.

But how close can you get without actually getting there.

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The red line is my old cylinder and the blue the side Ex port one.

To get as much blow down as possible I made the transfer time area a bit short for 12.500rpm with the transfers opening 116 ATDC .

I am going to try raising them to 114 ATDC and see what happens, hopefully a little more low end and another top end hp.

**kel** · 11th February 2011, 18:19

That is so close to the magic number

Any chance we can see an over lay with speedpros dyno graph.

**TZ350** · 11th February 2011, 18:31

Originally Posted by kel

Any chance we can see an over lay with speedpros dyno graph.

Yes, but only if he says its ok........

**Buckets4Me** · 11th February 2011, 20:16

Originally Posted by SS90

TeeZee

I assure you faster buckets have been built than yours 20 years ago.

You are actually relatively new to buckets, and you often present items you have simply googled and read,and not actuall experience.

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**richban** · 11th February 2011, 20:35

Originally Posted by TZ350

But how close can you get without actually getting there.

Shit you should just blow some cold air into the carb and you will make the 30.

**Bren_chch** · 11th February 2011, 20:41

I got a 29hp engine on triple-r-superbike dyno, the clutch was slipping bad and it was sucking in gearbox oil so i am sure there is a bit more power, i was running a 33mm vmx carb but am going to try a 28mm pwk carb, i have fixed the clutch with a new kit and added stronger springs, also fixed the oil issue with new seals and more GOO around the rotary disk cover. Its running a cr125 ignition which i want to replace with a zeetronic so i can make use of the powervalve and sort a good tune out.

On its first outing it shagged the original clutch kit and then started drinking the gearbox oil but it was still reaching just over 170kph at ruapuna, there were more power available but i ran out of smaller back sprockets.

I had some good help from F5Dave and Peter Steadman.

its in a rs125 chassis

Oh the pipe is a modified tz250 swarzzzz... swerz......... na swarzbrook?? shit cant remember pipe. seems to work pretty awesome, strong power everywhere.

I would actually like to send all my spec/info to wobbly and see if he has any ideas on what else i could do to make it better.

Some pics below.

**Bren_chch** · 11th February 2011, 20:43

the bike.... and engine finished

**Buckets4Me** · 11th February 2011, 20:46

Originally Posted by Bren_chch

I got a 29hp engine on triple-r-superbike dyno, the clutch was slipping bad

well so much for beating you guys down there with shear POWER

and we luck out on the good looks as well

but isn't that a Kwonda BR100R

I LIKE IT A LOT

**k14** · 11th February 2011, 20:49

Originally Posted by Bren_chch

the bike.... and engine finished

I thought you told me that you bored it out to 125cc

**Yow Ling** · 11th February 2011, 20:52

Originally Posted by k14

I thought you told me that you bored it out to 125cc

that was the joe1 motor

**Bren_chch** · 11th February 2011, 20:57

Originally Posted by Yow Ling

that was the joe1 motor

HA! the amount of people that used to ask if that motor in that horrible old joe1 frame had been checked for being within the rules!

What are they going to say when the new motor/bike gets totally sorted.

Take that SKINNY kids!

revenge of that fat men!