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    Everone want΄s more speed...
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    Surely this is the go....high power , low emissions , no expansion chambers....dyno proven...

    And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5czHDU6pK8E

    Lots of other 2 stroke stuff on youtube under "driving4answers" 2 strokes
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    As I posted earlier, most of the problems with two strokes were solved a long time ago. The Junkers opposed piston aircraft two strokes were reasonably successful both with their weight and especially with their fuel economy. If you replace the blower with a modern electric turbocharger you get even better power, weight, and economy.

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    Inertial Dyno Woes

    A friend built an inertial dyno based on our very successful small engine dyno. Though we had maybe thousands of trouble free runs, he has had issues. Pictures of both dynos are below. Ours is on the bench with the shield.



    His problems have been:

    Constant failures of the square key connecting the engine to the dyno

    Failures of the round shaft he replaced the square shaft with

    Slip of the shaft Locktited into the flywheel



    The only difference between his dyno and ours is the position of the clutch and the Lovejoy coupling. We have the coupling before the clutch and he has the clutch before the coupling. My thought is that the clutch is a solid connection and in our design the coupling insulates the engine's torque fluctuations from the flywheel's constant inertia better. We never did more than twist the square key. Others with dynos we copied never had any of these problems either.



    What are your thoughts?

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    The only suggestion I have is it seems the failures are all related to torsional harmonic twisting between the crank and the inertial mass.
    Those Lovejoy type slotted couplings with varying grades of what is probably urethane pads on the force faces , have to be very hard, or they distort and fail.
    Lovejoy also make what are called donut couplings as are used in racecar rear axle assemblies like Formula Ford etc - but I doubt they have something small enough.

    Maybe suppliers of mechatronic components for robots etc have a small donut drive coupling , that not only can take axial misalignment, but the rubber coupling itself dampens
    torsional harmonics really well.

    The other way of doing this is the camshaft drive torsional damper that was invented at Cosworth for the DFV - this has a set of small radial leaf springs that bend back and forth
    to insulate the cam drive from crank harmonics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    The only suggestion I have is it seems the failures are all related to torsional harmonic twisting between the crank and the inertial mass.
    Those Lovejoy type slotted couplings with varying grades of what is probably urethane pads on the force faces , have to be very hard, or they distort and fail.
    Lovejoy also make what are called donut couplings as are used in racecar rear axle assemblies like Formula Ford etc - but I doubt they have something small enough.

    Maybe suppliers of mechatronic components for robots etc have a small donut drive coupling , that not only can take axial misalignment, but the rubber coupling itself dampens
    torsional harmonics really well.

    The other way of doing this is the camshaft drive torsional damper that was invented at Cosworth for the DFV - this has a set of small radial leaf springs that bend back and forth
    to insulate the cam drive from crank harmonics.
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    Mark IV cortina propshaft up to and likely beyond the seira

    Cosworth also used a quill drive on both he v8 and the Norton twin
    https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26642

    I think some even used a hollow shaft as Torsion bar
    Triumph BSA used one on the points drive on the F750 tripple as the crankshaft tended to whip up and down.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    as seen on the
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    Mark IV cortina propshaft up to and likely beyond the seira

    Cosworth also used a quill drive on both he v8 and the Norton twin


    I think some even used a hollow shaft as Torsion bar
    Triumph BSA used one on the points drive on the F750 tripple as the crankshaft tended to whip up and down.
    Also used for Hillman Imp gearbox to driveshaft joints. AKA Rotoflex coupling
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ken seeber View Post
    Surely this is the go....high power , low emissions , no expansion chambers....dyno proven...

    And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5czHDU6pK8E

    Lots of other 2 stroke stuff on youtube under "driving4answers" 2 strokes
    Many of these get posted in the Oddballs and Prototypes thread.

    And it looks like our favorite 2 stroke Stuffer has some thoughts about the "Prior Art"!


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    Re the dynos; It was pointed out to me that our dyno had a very much thicker motor mount. I think it's possible that the engine is moving a lot more with the thin mount and that's what is causing the problem.

    Lohring Miller

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