ESE's works engine tuner

[Kickaha]

I dont give a fuck about being "lynched", all im doing is reading the rules as they are written, and having been thru many court cases over rule interpretation in karting, where the outcome could mean the driver gets a shot at F1 or not ( or so the fathers cheque book thinks) this argument is very amature.

Couldn't count the number of times I saw protests at Kart racing because someones father was packing a snot about something, some quite prominent Karting families normally involved

I gave up sprint racing for that reason

There used to be a rule in the Kart book that went something along the lines of
"if the rule book doesn't say you can do it then you can't"

[wobbly]

The whole reason I have entered this forum of late, and told you guys shit that you would never even have dreamed of, unless Jennifer Aniston was in on it as well, is that I am happy to pass on good knowledge.
Because no one else would appreciate it.

Real two stoke knowledge and experience is thin on the ground, as most people are still reading Bell and Cameron from 30 years ago as though that shit was the real deal.
What Thiel achieved at Aprilia, and Bartol at KTM is where the current realty lies, along with the huge advancements of late in engine simulation, that sprung out of the work at Queens in Ireland - but is now a quantum leap ahead of that simplistic bullshit code, in producing believable results.
The reality is, that making over 50 Hp from a 125 is easy, just as making 30 Hp from a 100 is easy, in fact the 100 is way easyer.
The fact that no one has done a proper job of a 100 yet, simply means I havnt helped enough of you do the right things.
Mike,TZ and NoMates are 1/2 way there,but there are another 100 secrets hiding in the ladies toilet.
My fault, sorry.
But if we are going to get hung up on bloody big end bearings as an issue, then im very inclined to say fuck off, its not worth the effort, when the rules are crystal clear - all because of an "s" after the word motor.

[husaberg]

The whole reason I have entered this forum of late, and told you guys shit that you would never even have dreamed of, unless Jennifer Aniston was in on it as well, is that I am happy to pass on good knowledge.
Because no one else would appreciate it.

Real two stoke knowledge and experience is thin on the ground, as most people are still reading Bell and Cameron from 30 years ago as though that shit was the real deal.
What Thiel achieved at Aprilia, and Bartol at KTM is where the current realty lies, along with the huge advancements of late in engine simulation, that sprung out of the work at Queens in Ireland - but is now a quantum leap ahead of that simplistic bullshit code, in producing believable results.
The reality is, that making over 50 Hp from a 125 is easy, just as making 30 Hp from a 100 is easy, in fact the 100 is way easyer.
The fact that no one has done a proper job of a 100 yet, simply means I havnt helped enough of you do the right things.
Mike,TZ and NoMates are 1/2 way there,but there are another 100 secrets hiding in the ladies toilet.
My fault, sorry.
But if we are going to get hung up on bloody big end bearings as an issue, then im very inclined to say fuck off, its not worth the effort, when the rules are crystal clear - all because of an "s" after the word motor.

Agreed from me Wayne.
So if I post a rubbing of my cylinder and some pics as well as the basic spec can you show me where I am at Wobbly.
Mine as you have alluded to is all based on bell and Robinson cause thats all i had to go on.

[gav]

But if we are going to get hung up on bloody big end bearings as an issue, then im very inclined to say fuck off, its not worth the effort, when the rules are crystal clear - all because of an "s" after the word motor.

I wonder if that extra S was intended or was a typo?
After all why ban competition transmission parts but allow competition engine parts?
Wonder if there is anyway of getting clarification on that?

[bucketracer]

Getting clarification on a rule is harder than you think.

I wonder if that extra S was intended or was a typo? Wonder if there is anyway of getting clarification on that?

TeeZee hasn't found it easy, if anyone has some pull with MNZ maybe they could get them to look into it.

[kel]

But if we are going to get hung up on bloody big end bearings as an issue, then im very inclined to say fuck off, its not worth the effort,

No you don’t. You keep writing we keep listening (and learning). There’s a ground swell in 2 stroke interest and the bikes that will roll out over the next 6 to 12 months will change the game, and they'll be built within the rules!

[wobbly]

If you want an analysis of an engine spec, send me ALL the info in a PM.
I do this work full time to pay the mortgage, so its gonna cost you, same as everyone else.

I think what we have here is a long standing "assumption" ( an error waiting to be revealed) that competition "parts" are illegal, when in fact the way the rules are written now,this would NOT stand up in court.
If you guys want to stick to what is also assumed was the intent, the "s" must be removed,NOW.

But my position would be that as we are "racing" and the most highly stressed parts in a "racing" engine are the piston and big end bearing, then in the interest of reliability ( and thus cost ) the late model reliable engine parts should be used.
A "racing" based close ratio gearbox is not needed for cost or reliability, so keep that as is - illegal.
But - before the decision is made what to do, alot of thought should be put into the ramifications of allowing competition engine "parts", and what effect this would have on the 4T guys.
If we allow the use of a modified RS125 cylinder, then we must allow the use of a full noise racing Moriwaki head or what ever for a 4T - BUT, the engine must be based on a road bike.
I think this would still keep an equal relativity between the two engines, but is maybe a real can of worms.
Hmmm.

[TZ350]

The whole reason I have entered this forum of late, and told you guys shit, is that I am happy to pass on good knowledge.
Because no one else would appreciate it.

I for one, very much appreciate it.

[ac3_snow]

I for one, very much appreciate it.

Ditto, should also say thanks to you TZ, and all the contributors, this thread provided me with all the motivation and wisdom to build my new bike. Saved me from getting an FXR!!

[speedpro]

Saved me from getting an FXR!!

If it saved even one rider from the dark side then it's all been worth it

[kel]

If it saved even one rider from the dark side then it's all been worth it

יְהִי אוֹר and the light was good.
And of course darkness is the privation of light (thanks Honda).

[TZ350]

There are some realy great action pic's of the last Mt Wellington meet on Damiens site http://www.flickr.com/photos/dty1/se...75616/?page=12

[TZ350]

More of Damiens great shots.

Amoungst the pictures are a bunch of FXR150's a very fast CB125T(150cc) and some strokers.

[F5 Dave]

Crumbs, I go away from the PC & this all blows up.

Husaberg I didn't 'attack' you at all, I just suggested you read the rules, so many seem to just go on heresay.

Now at this point I will have to admit that every time I've looked at those rules I've never read them that way. Now I have to agree that the 's' does seem to be an anomaly. Else why would the rules mention exclusions for pistons carbs etc?

Should someone put that through to MNZ for an amendment? or as Wobbly says, you could use an RS barrel in an extreme case.

Anyway I agree lets keep clear of squabbling, I don't come here for that.

[Kickaha]

I don't come here for that.

You come for the porn and beer?