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**RMS eng** · 19th June 2011, 17:23

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Crumbs, I go away from the PC & this all blows up.

Husaberg I didn't 'attack' you at all, I just suggested you read the rules, so many seem to just go on heresay.

Now at this point I will have to admit that every time I've looked at those rules I've never read them that way. Now I have to agree that the 's' does seem to be an anomaly. Else why would the rules mention exclusions for pistons carbs etc?

Should someone put that through to MNZ for an amendment? or as Wobbly says, you could use an RS barrel in an extreme case.

Anyway I agree lets keep clear of squabbling, I don't come here for that.

How do you guys come up with using a RS125 cylinder,rules say non competition motors and parts not permitted,unless you can prove they are the same part as used in road or trail bike,or have the same part number eg RM80 and DS80 use the same rod kit,rules look good and clear to me.

**gav** · 19th June 2011, 17:32

Because some read it as referring to a complete motor and transmission parts, and somehow this doesnt mean motor parts.

**Kickaha** · 19th June 2011, 17:35

Originally Posted by RMS eng

rules say non competition motors and parts not permitted

No they say Motors and transmission parts, not motor and transmission parts, a small but subtle difference

**F5 Dave** · 19th June 2011, 17:43

Sadly Chris he's right. Not the intention the rule for sure.

**Kickaha** · 19th June 2011, 17:45

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Not the intention the rule for sure.

No I doubt it was and certainly not how its been interpreted for a few decades

Funny the difference one letter can make, although I'll be using the "old" interpretation for anything I build

**RMS eng** · 19th June 2011, 18:17

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Sadly Chris he's right. Not the intention the rule for sure.

no still looks clear to me,first bit said,motors must be derived from non-competition motorcycles ect,and a motor is a complete engine.

**gav** · 19th June 2011, 18:55

Originally Posted by RMS eng

no still looks clear to me,first bit sad,motors must be derived from non-competition motorcycles ect,and a motor is a complete engine.

But what about using motor PARTS, hence not a complete engine?
eg start with MB100, add RS125 cylinder ....

**jasonu** · 19th June 2011, 19:06

Originally Posted by gav

But what about using motor PARTS, hence not a complete engine?
eg start with MB100, add RS125 cylinder ....

That argument is pedantic at best. We (Bucket Racers) all know the rules and just because some clever cloggs has noticed a loop hole that might suit his build, the intention is well known and accepted.

**bucketracer** · 19th June 2011, 19:06

Originally Posted by jasonu

That argument is pedantic at best. We (Bucket Racers) all know the rules and just because some clever cloggs has noticed a loop hole that might suit his build, the intention is well known and accepted.

Well said Jason totally agree ........

I think the smarty who started arguing the toss has moved to here, where nothing has to work and creative talk can make all things possible.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...s-for-husaberg

Probably a great place for everyone who loves to argue, to take the rest of the clever legal eagle ideas to too.

**kel** · 19th June 2011, 19:18

Found sometime to work on the KE this weekend. Ive decided the arguement for correct blowdown cant be ignored so have reset the transfer back to 128 deg and widened them out as much as possible . While I was in there I decided to match the piston skirt transfer cut outs to the inlet (rotary valve), thankfully TZ saved me just in time as the piston wouldnt have sealed the exhaust port at TDC. (cheers mate owe you a beer for that one). Managed to mount the KX stator as well. A couple more weekends like this one and I might even get it finished by the end of the year.

Now back to the FXR, time to get those new cams in

**Yow Ling** · 19th June 2011, 19:27

Some old coot from Rangiora dropped of this old trail bike engine, its some kind of Kawasaiki looks a bip like the GP125style of things, any good for a bucket?

**jasonu** · 19th June 2011, 19:34

Originally Posted by Yow Ling

any good for a bucket?

No mate total shit. Give you $20 bucks for it (and on sell the cylinder to Kel for $50)

**bucketracer** · 19th June 2011, 19:34

Originally Posted by Yow Ling

GP125style of things, any good for a bucket?

Send it up to Auckland, we will figure out something to do with it.

**kel** · 19th June 2011, 19:58

Originally Posted by Yow Ling

any good for a bucket?

As I said a ground swell of 2 stroke interest, and, a return to Kawasaki dominance. Have a feeling this one will come together quicker than mine.

**gav** · 19th June 2011, 20:02

Originally Posted by Yow Ling

Some old coot from Rangiora dropped of this old trail bike engine, its some kind of Kawasaiki looks a bip like the GP125style of things, any good for a bucket?

Didn't know Kickaha had one of those in his garage?