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    Queer shit in Mikes MB engine? Its that lanky b'stard that is on the outside I'd be more worried about

    That's a pretty cool slippery pipe gadget. Wonder how strong the servo has to be to pull the pipe esp as the header needs to be sealed so some friction is inevitable. Perhaps it doesn't kick in till 4th gear as trying to keep up in lower gears would surely be hard. I wonder how quickly it would respond during gear changes? I mean you can imagine peak revs then bam you change gear, revs drop & try to pull out of it with a short pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koba View Post
    Once you guys bulk up that hole a bit THAT would be a good engine to have.
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    Chambers has sorted it ................ I expect with a little more fiddling he will get all of the over rev back too. (24mm OKO carb)

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    Slippery Pipe

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    The Blue Line is my current engine. the other lines are tests done with 20-40-60mm expansion pieces in the mid section.

    All the extra length did was flatten the top and did not give any extra power range at the bottom which is what I was looking for.

    So from this experiment I am unconvinced that a slippery pipe would do much.

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    Sorry? so you've lost 5hp by adding 20mm? with no other changes? I'd question the pipe's integrity?



    What did Chambers do to lose the dip? Ignition adv? Looks very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Sorry? so you've lost 5hp by adding 20mm? with no other changes? I'd question the pipe's integrity?
    I would guess that the 3 lower graphes where done some time ago .In the build up to the engine he has now


    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    What did Chambers do to lose the dip? Ignition adv? Looks very nice.
    again would guess that the ignitech had something to do with it
    got that one wrong
    It was a new pipe
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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    How about a variable exhaust header. This one allows 25mm adjustment

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    Google translate says "a new control to include inflammation of RTD and the like" Thanks Google.
    Cagiva ran a system in the "lil Jon" days which extended the header pipe with a hydraulic actuation at huge pressure (1500psi) the pump allowed the header pipe to lengthen along the lines of 20mm extra or minus length .I guess they shorten the header length in operation.If I can be bothered I have pics somewhere.
    Of course the Honda water injection based system was much simpler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckets4Me View Post
    I would guess that the 3 lower graphes where done some time ago .In the build up to the engine he has now
    Even just looking at the 20 and 60 lines there is not much difference between them at the lower end, maybe 200rpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
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    Chambers has sorted it ................ I expect with a little more fiddling he will get all of the over rev back too. (24mm OKO carb)
    That's quite scary as I think it is a very close approximation of where my bike is at, lower in the rev range of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
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    Chambers has sorted it ................ I expect with a little more fiddling he will get all of the over rev back too. (24mm OKO carb)
    I think that is the best looking readout I have seen from you guys.
    Now, how will it perform on the track?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Now, how will it perform on the track?????
    Whats your guess ..............

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    NedKelly at the last Taupo TRRS

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    And Neds new project...........

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    Team ESE are going to try their hand at 100cc water cooled.

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    Rg100 ?

    Is it a rg100 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    NedKelly at the last Taupo TRRS

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    And Neds new project...........

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    Team ESE are going to try their hand at 100cc water cooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    NedKelly at the last Taupo TRRS

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    And Neds new project...........

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    Team ESE are going to try their hand at 100cc water cooled.

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    Time will tell. I will be interested in throttle response and driveability reports. If the graph is anything to go on then I think it should run pretty dam good. The graph looks like a mix of my when run with an RS pipe and then run with my TZ pipe, the mix I hope to develop into my bike.

    Neds bike looks to be in the same state as mine. Is that the chassis someone in Aussie was selling a while ago???

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    You guys will of course be putting the sprocket centerline in the right place to get some anti squat, and keeping the front of that engine up high so the angle wont be too steep with a dead straight rubber manifold holding the powerjet carb.
    If the static angle is too acute, the fuel in the bowl can uncover the powerjet entry port - it goes lean and goes bang - been there done that.
    Ive got a thing thats unique and new.To prove it I'll have the last laugh on you.Cause instead of one head I got two.And you know two heads are better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Is that the chassis someone in Aussie was selling a while ago???
    Errrrr no ....... ........ but we do know whos got it.

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