ESE's works engine tuner

**koba** · 18th December 2011, 19:06

Originally Posted by TZ350

You see what I mean about Mota over stating it but I think you will fined the rpm and the shape of the curve will be pretty well right.

Yes, the Belzona is still there ... and yes, I think the cranks can be made reliable with the RGV rod kits and decent main brgs, the same could be done to TF/TS and then they should be good for 13,000 + too.

We'll find out eventually as I will get it to a Dyno sometime.

Good to hear about the Belzona, that re-assures me about one of the options for my motor which is the CR85 3mm oversize piston that wobbly posted about. Don't know for sure if it will have bridge oiling holes but it is quite likely.

I'm living in fear of 40hp buckets now...

**TZ350** · 18th December 2011, 19:10

Originally Posted by koba

I'm living in fear of 40hp buckets now...

Probably no need as I have single handedly proved big hp on its own doesn’t win races.

**koba** · 18th December 2011, 19:29

Originally Posted by TZ350

Probably no need as I have single handedly proved big hp on its own doesn’t win races.

Cue the ring-in...
At a GP on a big track HP means a lot more than on a kart track. (Stating the obvious!)

I've steered away from too much power too soon on purpose.
I wanted to be able to ride what I have (maybe 14hp) to it's potential before I moved further.
I learn best in small steps when it comes to riding. Some people do fine when chucked straight into the deep end but I'm well aware I'm not one!

It could still go quite a lot faster on a kart track with some decent suspension work. However, I'm reasonably satisfied I've lapped Kaitoke at least close to it's current top speed.
The next stage is a jump in power but more importantly a refinement of the curve.

I'd love to get flash boingers on it but It is just so much easier to do HP on the cheap.
HP wins, the boingers will have to wait for a bit. I did get a 2nd hand GSXR shock off Richban but I think it will need a lot of thought and modification to have a chance of getting it to work better than the std (pretty bad!) rear shock.

**Farmaken** · 18th December 2011, 19:38

Originally Posted by TZ350

EngMod2T

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I had previously built up an EngMod2T model of my existing motor that pretty much matched its real life dyno graph.

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And then added a Pipe designed by Frits, the plenum and my tripple port cylinder. Could the race be on to see who can make the first Bucket to touch 40rwhp !!!!

Did you say 40

**husaberg** · 18th December 2011, 19:46

Originally Posted by Farmaken

Did you say 40

Shouldn't we achieve he first 35hp bucket first? Vanessa is going to be very upset if some other starlet with fuller curves upstages her

Here is some Honda RS125 stuff. Love the 90's colours. Where my Hair Gel . ooh... OK Never mind the gel where's most of my hair gone.

**bucketracer** · 18th December 2011, 20:08

Six months ago people were scoffing at 30hp, in fact a while ago an "Industry Insider" was telling us low 20's was the best he had ever seen/managed in 200 dyno sessions from a 125 air cooled rotary valver with a 24mm carb. Our foreign correspondent didn't seem to hold out much hope of TeeZee bettering it, and as he tells it, he should know, as he tunes strokers for a living. And by his own admission, is perfectly qualified to judge.

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Here you go TeeZee a fancy new updraft carb ...

**kel** · 18th December 2011, 20:09

Originally Posted by koba

HP wins, the boingers will have to wait for a bit. .

Go for the suspension! Im still buzzing from riding Arrons bike in the 2hr, so much so Im afraid to get back on mine for the let down I know it will be. Arrons motor is standard bar the high comp piston, was the brilliant handling that made it so quick.
Big power and flash suspension now that would be the ticket!

**koba** · 18th December 2011, 20:18

Originally Posted by kel

Go for the suspension! Im still buzzing from riding Arrons bike in the 2hr, so much so Im afraid to get back on mine for the let down I know it will be. Arrons motor is standard bar the high comp piston, was the brilliant handling that made it so quick.
Big power and flash suspension now that would be the ticket!

It would wouldn't it!

There are multiple options open to me at this point.

More power is definitely high on the list as all it really requires is time and thought. I may have to buy a sheet of steel to make a pipe but that's about it.

Is Aarons bike an FXR?
My bike in its current state gets destroyed by a std FXR in a drag race...

**koba** · 18th December 2011, 20:20

Originally Posted by bucketracer

Six months ago people were scoffing at 30hp, in fact a while ago an "Industry Insider" was telling us low 20's was the best he had ever seen/managed from a 125 air cooled rotary valver with a 24mm carb in 200 dyno sessions. He didn't seem to hold out much hope of TeeZee bettering it, because he should know as he tunes strokers for a living and by his own admission, is qualified to judge.

Here you go TeeZee a fancy new updraft carb ...

I had a re-read of some of that stuff recently.

I'm still amazed at how much he acted like a childish fuckwit.

**gamma500** · 18th December 2011, 20:43

Originally Posted by TZ350

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And then added a Pipe designed by Frits, the plenum and my tripple port cylinder. Could the race be on to see who can make the first Bucket to touch 40rwhp !!!!

VERY impressive

, waiting eagerly to see the dyno results.

**husaberg** · 18th December 2011, 21:06

Originally Posted by koba

I had a re-read of some of that stuff recently.

I'm still amazed at how much he acted like a childish fuckwit.

Why be amazed he is a childish FW and a racist bigot as well.

Kaw 900cc vs Rs125 seems fair!

**husaberg** · 18th December 2011, 21:54

Honda rs125 Nx4 a bit dog eared and er......stained

**husaberg** · 18th December 2011, 22:11

Originally Posted by bucketracer

Six months ago people were scoffing at 30hp, in fact a while ago an "Industry Insider" was telling us low 20's was the best he had ever seen/managed in 200 dyno sessions from a 125 air cooled rotary valver with a 24mm carb. Our foreign correspondent didn't seem to hold out much hope of TeeZee bettering it, and as he tells it, he should know, as he tunes strokers for a living. And by his own admission, is perfectly qualified to judge.

Here you go TeeZee a fancy new updraft carb ...

Their Website is basic but there is a Kilt 24mm carb listed for 400NZD

How much was the one Wob posted?

on the ibea site look under old models
http://www.vroom.it/en/kart-news/104...-carb-unveiled
http://ibeacarb.com/ibea/index.html
http://www.kilt-karting.be/kilt.htm
http://www.ekartingnews.com/viewtopi...30f65c0dfa91f3
http://www.vroom.it/en/kart-news/104...-december-2011