ESE's works engine tuner

[husaberg]

Heres hoping that MNZ allows us to do what we Kiwis are good at, making shit that works.

The SPX read brought home one thing AGAIN, I have been thru this so many times its boring.
Peak power at 6000, means the pipes are about 2 metres long - and you are going to fit these WHERE???
I got involved with a project where an idiot wanted a 1200 triple 2T to go into a ZX10, he just couldn't accept that with and engine that big I
simply couldn't fit pipes in.
Same with a 1000 twin proposal.
Go down to say a slightly oversquare 900 triple and it may be possible - and could easily make over 200 Hp, but no,it had to be BIG.
ie inversely proportional to his dick size.

Too right but from what i remember the design didn't use much in the way of pipe tuning hence the HP.(Which i guess would have matched the UJM of the time, Say CB750) it was more about matching the tightening emissions with a simple easy to produce engine with as little amount of parts, but i guess that wasn't your point.
Re the pipes vs engine size that why i think a 2t singles and twins class could be fun.
As there is such a large amount of solutions to work around a the bigger engine wouldn't necessarily rule the roost not to mention the problems of finding big enough carbs as well as fitting in exhausts on large engines.
It would be interesting to have such diverse engines as KTM300's CR500's and RS125's battling it out. Not to mention potentially cheap fun with not so much demand for 90's 2t MX engines. Not to mention jet skis.
The other advantage of a eclusivly 2T class is the 4T can't ban them then.

[bucketracer]

The other side of your reasoning could say 'Why change the 24mm carb rule as TZ abd co. are makeing good HP with the rule in place.' If you get rid of the rule TZ makes 40hp, then the 100cc watercooled bikes will want 125cc then the coal burners will want 180cc. The rule works just fine as it is.

I hadn't thought about it, but yes you are right and the 24mm rule is probably the thing that will hold TeeZee back otherwise he would probably be knocking out NZ's first 40hp Bucket.

I agree the rules are just fine as they are.

[bucketracer]

Come to think of it, the 24mm carb rule may not stop TeeZee making 40.

[Brian d marge]

I have some stuff that may be useful , this is about the Ducati trellis frame ,,

Stephen

edit ,,the Algorythm they are talking about is like this turbine blade ( I know its not buckets but the concept is the same )

[husaberg]

Well Stephen i enjoyed it at least. Make me think of the humble bumble bee.....
Of venom, of spider silk,plant toxins and of Penicillin.
Also why nature rarely has straight lines... and perfect circles.
why most of our drugs are synthesized versions of compounds produced from nature.

Take the widely used mectin family of drench.

Solely derived from a compound isolated from a soil sample taken from not far from where you live.(Japland home of HONDA)

It also reminds me of the Aussie guy who made the Camera lens that bent the known understanding of physics (in his back yard.)

[Frits Overmars]

Well Stephen i enjoyed it at least. Make me think of the humble bumble bee.....

You mean that it's scientifically proven that a bumble bee can't fly?
Well, someone forgot to tell the bumble bee .

[ief]

You mean that it's scientifcally proven that a bumble bee can't fly?
Well, someone forgot to tell the bumble bee .

Science has caught up so now we can tell it what the bumble bee already knew in the first place

[136kg136ps]

FWIW Wob your former "associate" has just alienated his cylinder supplier.

I am eternally grateful for TZ starting this and all the info you and Frits have contributed as well as the spin-off and related threads.I don't post as I am out of my league,don't race and content with ~9bar.Plz be aware there many more like me who are lurking and are in awe of the openess and camaraderie displayed among competitors.Best of luck in all your endeavors fellas.

[husaberg]

found this it is from Rob Tuluie from what i understand used to be head of R&D at Renualt F1 and was a Rocket scientist so i guess he is reasonably clever or has good PR. Edit he did this all before turning 39 .
he also designed the frames above.

its about Detonation i haven't actually read it yet.
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/wre...tion-3420.html
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/wre...tion-3420.html

fuel
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/wre...-gas-3417.html

Come to think of it, the 24mm carb rule may not stop TeeZee making 40.

True but he may have to work within the laws and limits of thermal dynamics and engine capacity still though.(Known limit or unknown)

Reliability
Handling
Ride-ability
HP

Dyno number are sexy but....

Whoops missed out the 50kg Psychotic dwarf they always help

[wobbly]

I did warn Calvin that my former associate was a lying thieving piece of shit,who would happily two faced - smile and stab him in the back at the same time.
I knew he hadnt paid for alot of product - hard to do when he and his evil cow wife were embezzling funds big time from the company account.
It will take me a long time to recover financially and emotionally.
The 400 F3 result is the first good news in a while.

[wax]

I always find people who bad mouth alot have something to hide. I tend to avoid them.
If its the person I'm thinking your talking about wayne I'm avoiding them already.
It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there was more to the story than I was being told

[dinamik2t]

Me on the other hand, I always wondered why hard-to-comprehend situations are associated with "rocket" science.. Ok, it a distant place, but try learning quantum mechanics for instance .

[TZ350]

Reliability
Handling
Ride-ability
HP

I absolutly totaly agree with this ......

Dyno numbers are sexy ....

Yes sir, they sure are ... and its what I am best at, well better at than riding anyway.

Hopefully one day someone with riding talent will get one of these high hp engines sorted and in a good chassis.

50kg Psychotic dwarf they always help

They sure do, but even a 50kg Psychotic dwarf notices it when they are down on power.

[husaberg]

They sure do, but even a 50kg Psychotic dwarf notices it when they are down on power.

yeah but sometimes they grit there teeth and just ride the wheels of it after all they are psychotic
Either that or they finish the race put it in neutral and give it maximum revs till it seizes and go back to their motor home wash there hands 100 times wash there gear with a toothbrush and wonder why no ones gives them a contract for next season.

Me on the other hand, I always wondered why hard-to-comprehend situations are associated with "rocket" science.. Ok, it a distant place, but try learning quantum mechanics for instance .

The term Rocket science is a western pop culture saying. It mainly stems from the term to describe people who are not so bright.
They are desribed as not being a rocket scientist.
The major problem with using quantum physics or mechanics as an example is no really does fully understands it.
I put in the Tuluie was a rocket science because it was funny that he was one.

[Kickaha]

missed out the 50kg Psychotic dwarf they always help

Stop picking on Shaun Harris