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    Quote Originally Posted by RAW View Post
    Frits would you PLEASE upload a version that can run on Windows 7, 64 bit
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    How to you time a power valve when working from scratch ?

    This is the plot from a KR150

    The next question is, I don't think there is any adjustments to be made on the motor?



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    Quote Originally Posted by marsheng View Post
    How to you time a power valve when working from scratch ?

    This is the plot from a KR150

    The next question is, I don't think there is any adjustments to be made on the motor?



    Thanks Wallace
    Its a mechanical powervalve, all you can change is the weights or the spring, I guess you could get a PV servo and make it electronic
    Why does your plot only go to 8800, my KR revs to 12,000
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    An RG150 should touch 30hp, presumably the KR should be close yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAW View Post
    Frits would you PLEASE upload a version that can run on Windows 7, 64 bit
    You can run it with program called dosbox, check youtube for tutorials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAW View Post
    Frits would you PLEASE upload a version that can run on Windows 7, 64 bit
    I would love to, Raw. All I need is a 64 bit laptop. Do you want my bank account number?
    Or all you'd need is a Windows 98 emulator. I can recommend VMware Player. I use it on my 32bit Windows7 machine. It's free. Last time I checked, laptops weren't.

    Quote Originally Posted by gamma500 View Post
    You can run it with program called dosbox, check youtube for tutorials.
    Better check Dosbox itself, Gamma. That is one emulator I can not recommend. It's a fleeced version of MS-DOS 5 and it won't run most of my programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    Its a mechanical powervalve, all you can change is the weights or the spring, I guess you could get a PV servo and make it electronic
    Why does your plot only go to 8800, my KR revs to 12,000
    I need to update the software, it reads under by 1000 rpm and the final HP depends on the accuracy of calibration. PS I'm only plotting the problem point. Interestingly with a Trail Tech rev counter, it tops out at 10500.

    My guess would be to remove the mechanical advance and do a plot. Wherever the max HP is, is the point where the mechanical advance should start.

    This is an interesting motor. We stripped out the excess wiring today and we were left with very little. A wire from the magneto to the coil and nothing else. No CDI box no regulator no battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    I would love to, Raw. All I need is a 64 bit laptop. Do you want my bank account number?
    Or all you'd need is a Windows 98 emulator. I can recommend VMware Player. I use it on my 32bit Windows7 machine; it's free. Last time I checked, laptops weren't.

    Better check Dosbox itself, Gamma. That is one emulator I can not recommend. It's a fleeced version of MS-DOS 5 and it won't run my programs.
    I have ran your flywheel program with dosbox, it seems to work for me Never used vmware,but it is most probably a lot better

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamma500 View Post
    I have ran your flywheel program with dosbox, it seems to work for me Never used vmware,but it is most probably a lot better
    FLYWHEEL.EXE will run directly under Windows 7, no emulation required, mainly because it does not call any graphics functions, but most of my other programs won't.

    When I started writing my programs, I used Algol (ancient Greek for computers). Those programs would not even run on home computers, because these did not yet exist. Later, when I got my own PC, I had to rewrite everything for the MS-DOS operating system. And when that was succeeded by Windows 95/98 I had the same pleasure again.
    The sad thing about it is that this repeated labour did not contribute a thing to the functionality of the programs; it only served to keep them alive under ever more Microsoft-belches.

    The programs in their present form run under all Microsoft operating systems from DOS 6.2 to Windows 98SE. Depending on the graphics card in a particular computer they may also function with Windows 2000 and XP. Under Vista and Windows 7 they can be used via an emulator. But the recent Microsoft operating systems are so preoccupied with virus control that real-time communication between my electronic equipment and the computer suffers. Of course there is a solution: rewrite all programs and have new measuring equipment built, at appreciable financial consequences. And then, when everything functions again, Microsoft will introduce something even newer, even better, and I can start all over again. I am not young enough anymore to waste my time with such nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    FLYWHEEL.EXE will run directly under Windows 7, no emulation required, mainly because it does not call any graphics functions, but most of my other programs won't.

    When I started writing my programs, I used Algol (ancient Greek for computers). Those programs would not even run on home computers, because these did not yet exist. Later, when I got my own PC, I had to rewrite everything for the MS-DOS operating system. And when that was succeeded by Windows 95/98 I had the same pleasure again.
    The sad thing about it is that this repeated labour did not contribute a thing to the functionality of the programs; it only served to keep them alive under ever more Microsoft-belches.

    The programs in their present form run under all Microsoft operating systems from DOS 6.2 to Windows 98SE. Depending on the graphics card in a particular computer they may also function with Windows 2000 and XP. Under Vista and Windows 7 they can be used via an emulator. But the recent Microsoft operating systems are so preoccupied with virus control that real-time communication between my electronic equipment and the computer suffers. Of course there is a solution: rewrite all programs and have new measuring equipment built, at appreciable financial consequences. And then, when everything functions again, Microsoft will introduce something even newer, even better, and I can start all over again. I am not young enough anymore to waste my time with such nonsense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adegnes View Post
    That made me smile

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    Does it miss anything Frits? Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbw View Post
    That made me smile
    I bet it did. It sounds like a Linux commercial, doesn't it?
    If it were up to me, I would have switched to Linux ages ago. I believe in the idea of open source; that is what I'm trying to accomplish in the two-stroke field too.
    But it is not up to me; practically all users of my software run Windows, so I was compelled to develop my programs using that same operating system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muciek View Post
    Does it miss anything Frits?
    If you mean the graphics: no, it doesn't seem to miss anything. Dosbox must have bettered its life.
    If you mean the functionality of the program: you tell me. It depends on what is needed to develop two-stroke HCCI; that is largely unknown territory yet.

    EDIT: I just tested your Dosbox version 0.74. It still is a fleeced version of Dos 5.00 and it does not recognize a lot of functions that were used in my programs.
    Some programs may run; most of them won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adegnes View Post
    Maybe some useful info here:
    http://dtec.net.au/Tech%20Articles.htm
    And Here:
    http://performancetrends.com/tdkmotorsports/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    Later, when I got my own PC, I had to rewrite everything for the MS-DOS operating system. And when that was succeeded by Windows 95/98 I had the same pleasure again.

    Doesnt matter much now but there was a dead simple GUI setting in WIN95/98 that would allow WIN95/98 to run real DOS, not the fake DOS that WIN95/98 ran by default. Used it many times back in the day. Someone posted it on the internet way back when, .

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