ESE's works engine tuner

[jasonu]

Found this hiding on you tube






maby with a few 2 strokes it can look like this

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I didn't know they let old Welsh guys ride buckets...
Great footage though.

[gav]

I think the very first Cagiva 500GP bikes had square four engines based on a Suzuki. They were close to giving up, until Yamaha gave them a couple of v4 engines and helped them with development etc including letting Kenny Roberts test ride the bike and help out etc. Later they also helped by getting Eddie Lawson on board for them.

[TZ350]

For TZ why does your gp100 clinder have 123cc cast on it first line. third fom the right?

Eeeek I could swear when I looked it said 99 .......... oh well

[TZ350]

Cagiva had ran at rear facing disk valve on a modified Yamaha tz500/4 crankcase ala the modern RSA engine in 1981

Is this it? Can you post the the mag article?

[TZ350]

We use silicon grease on the cylinder head o ring. (2-stroke)



Best crankcase jointing compound known to man, we got this from Haldanes when it was still a Yamaha shop.



The Red Hi-temp silicone Goop that we use for inlet manifolds and sealing the exhaust manifold and chamber slip joint. I expect Repco and most parts shops would stock it.

[husaberg]

Is this it? Can you post the the mag article?

Here it is I wish I had the Autocourse full story

Ps where it you get the pics?
I had a little look on google as I had never seen or herd of it but came up empty.

[husaberg]

Where the heck would GP racing have been without Yamaha? The Cagiva example is only a small footnote. They have long provided the bread & butter racers & wouldn't have been making much profit if any at all due to constant spec changes & minimal numbers compared to roadbikes. However they considered it good for the sport & presumable gets their name out there if they fill much of the grid -even if they know most people only remember who won.

The TD TZ range kept privateers running & of course the ROC & Harris 500s were viable with Yam supplied engines. This action staved off moves to allow big production F1 bikes to fill the grids which would have diluted the whole concept of GP. Some ideas keep rotating around though huh?

They also did oddball things, like specifically not hiring Schwantz as they saw it as good for the sport not to have all the gun riders on YZRs.

Geeze Dave I wasn't slagging Yamaha. But I supose they did the GP thing to sell bikes to like YDS,DS,RD,LC,RZ,TZR,YSR etc.
I am sure the GP programe helped the mx programe a little bit too.
Honda also helped keep the racing closer by not hiring a top second rider most of the time.
I think the cagiva of the era are still prettier than the Yamahas of the era.ESP this one it still is ugly.Went all right though.

Heres a pick of Kevins injuries he definatly got away with it better than Wayne but imagine what he could have done with a Honda or a Yamaha Always exciting to watch.When asked why he would keep the hammer down and fall of while having a massive lead , He said, for Me winning wasn't enough,
I wanted to annihilate them!.only on the track once off it different dude

[gav]

Yeah #71 Gasket maker is available ex Repco, as is the Three Bond 1215, most of the workshops use the Three Bond, but its not cheap.

[speedpro]

Hi-Temp Red dissolves in petrol. It turns to a very soft jelly and expands.. I use Yamaha Bond or similar, or a Loctite product depending on the application if petrol is involved. The modern pump gas is particularly bad given the % of Tolulene/Tolulol.

[husaberg]

I'm using high temp o-ring and hi-temp red silicone.

Hi-Temp Red dissolves in petrol. It turns to a very soft jelly and expands.. I use Yamaha Bond or similar, or a Loctite product depending on the application if petrol is involved. The modern pump gas is particularly bad given the % of Tolulene/Tolulol.

?
For engines the dealership I was at we used Hylomar stuff for the engines.
Not exhausts though.
I think it was the official Honda recomended product.That was almost two decades ago though mind you.
From memory the reasoning was it didn't set into bits to block oilways etc.EG honda single cam covers etc.
Honda had enough top end problems as it was at the time without extra oilway blockages.
The people that distributed Hylomar may have had the best girly pic calenders though, sometimes that could sway the buying decisions of the foreman.

We used to use a lot of rubber grease for something weird on the engines too but I can't remember what for.
It sure used to smell nice though.mmmmmm.......

[speedpro]

Just something I spotted for Rob to muse over

http://www.mbe-motorsports.com/catal...roducts_id/337

[koba]

Some good old clips of Mamola, mostly on Cagiva GP bikes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Woms8gb6o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQGI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtD_U...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTt5...eature=related

[F5 Dave]

Geeze Dave I wasn't slagging Yamaha. . . .

I didn't think you were, I was just pointing out that they were in many instances a company loyal to racing rather than on profit & ego alone. Just be lucky I didn't start the counter rave about the big H which are a bunch of Kunts & I would never buy or ride a Honda.


Well apart from the MB, or the RS.

Or if it was an interesting model or convenient,

or I forgot. But apart from that I am unrepentant in my boycott.

[F5 Dave]

Some good old clips of Mamola, mostly on Cagiva GP bikes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Woms8gb6o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQGI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtD_U...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsTt5...eature=related

Italian bike, Pirrelli tyres; a match made in heaven, or rather by somone who's arrival appeared imminent.


good clips.

[husaberg]

I didn't think you were, I was just pointing out that they were in many instances a company loyal to racing rather than on profit & ego alone. Just be lucky I didn't start the counter rave about the big H which are a bunch of Kunts & I would never buy or ride a Honda.


Well apart from the MB, or the RS.

Or if it was an interesting model or convenient,

or I forgot. But apart from that I am unrepentant in my boycott.

Just as well no Honda rant then .I note you never offered your opinion on the styling bit.?
The engines being available was I believe thanks to Kenny and they were for a start.At least ment to be works spec other than the ignitions and electronics,and the 180 degree cranks so they were to be admired for the gesture.
But
The yzr500 motor was at the time 50,000 pounds.and they ROC and Harris had to buy a minimun of six.From memory the nz dollar was about 3 to the pound at the time.
The cranks were 6000 pounds for a pair, The cylinders were 7500 pound for a pair so they weren't excatly giving them away?

Shame the supermoto is a Honda I guess