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  1. #40786
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    "

    Completely closing throttle earlier than normal, however carb is not so tiny at 30 mm and no issue on all gear runs on a dyno which fits very well to our acceleration times on track. "

    My guess for koenichs problem

    Idle jet to big/ rich

    and/or

    cutaway to small/ rich

    This may dropp pipe temperatures maybe so deep, that pipe is out of resonance !?

    Next depending issue could be, that rpm s are dropping to such a low level, where ignition advance is high and this is resultig in another lower egt ...trapped in double issues!???

    Wobbly ? He uses a pwk type carb... without tps...only 2d ignition curve

    are these other possible reasons for phenomenon??

    Thanks for advice, opinion and help !

  2. #40787
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    The Mychron 5 needs an Expansion Box to run suspension position sensors , and according to its manual this has a set sample rate of 10Hz.
    How do you get 25Hz, but apparently even this will not detect chatter as its way too fast a rate of change.
    Aim has a software update that allows a Fourier Transform into the first derivative of velocity, but according to their own information we need up to 500Hz to see
    high speed rate of change correctly.
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    Re the jetting issue - it was not obvious at all to me that following a slower bike you would " back all the way off ", but anyway, surely the idle and transition jetting has been tuned
    such that there is no issues at idle or on initial acceleration.
    Im guessing that you have tuned the main, on the dyno, or on the track to suit the bowl fuel level height after a period of WOT.
    In the circumstance you describe, maybe the bowl level is dropping at WOT, and when you back off, as no fuel is being used - the bowl refills back to its nominal height and then when
    cracking open the gas again the fuel curve is way rich.
    This means the float valve is too small - Easy to check by adding a small breather fitting into the bowl nut and running a tube up the side of the carb.

    I had that exact issue using Lectron HV40 carbs with clear bowls on a TZ400. On the dyno when hitting WOT you could see the level drop all of 20mm by the end of a dyno run.
    The carbs had 3mm valves, fitting the so called high flow 3.5mm versions with side squirt holes, the issue went away instantly.
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  3. #40788
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    An age ago on a mikuki i tried bigger valve etc to try solve a problem where upright you could just make it to the end of straight at Ruapuna B but would die as soon as you opened the throttle after the corner.
    I ended up soldering an extension on the bottom of the button style jet in frustration. That fixed the symptoms kinda.
    But the real reason turned out to be that the cross carb drilling was the actual bottleneck.

    Once that was drilled out (and plug the brass ball again) normal jets could be run.

    And that wasn't the last time I encountered that.
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