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  1. #40861
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSE View Post
    Mr. Frits, please take a look at these channel cross-section sketches.
    Is it possible to consider such an interpretation of the cross sections of the purge channel profiles?
    With the graduation channel, I'll probably work with the sketches before starting to build 3D models, and of course I'll show the result.
    It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to attach a profile of the piston bottom, I didn't think about it right away.
    I'm laying the piston with a sphere with a radius of 360 mm and a compression height of 30.5 mm.
    I stopped at a connecting rod with an inter-center distance of 129 mm. At least this size seemed to me more optimal in terms of calculating lateral forces.... Well, what will happen with gas exchange and filling, it will probably have to be evaluated only in bench tests.
    The engine is still being drawn and is in the stage of sketches and layouts.
    Thank you DSE. Yes, I prefer to be called just Frits, without the 'Mr' or even the 'Dr' that Germans seem to be so fond of.
    And of course everybody is free to use the nickname he or she prefers on the internet, be you would make me happy if I could call you by your first name too.

    Your posts raised a number of questions. And I guessed wrong with your 'jumper' so now I will simply ask instead of guess: what is a graduation channel?

    Your engine has a 69,5 mm bore and a 65 mm stroke so it's definitely short-stroke which as you may know, is unfavorable for the specific angle.areas in a two-stroke engine.
    Your 129 mm con rod length is less than twice the stroke. If I were free to design an engine, I'd use a rod/stroke ratio of 2,2 , so noticeably longer than you are planning to use.

    You wrote that you studied the 'tower of Pisa' concept but it does not show in your drawings. Your axial transfer angles are steeper than the proposed values in my concept,
    which is meant for a square bore/stroke engine. For your short-stroke engine those angles should be even smaller.

    The most import radial transfer angle is the leading direction angle of the A-transfer port. Why make it 40° instead of 30° if you still enjoy the freedom of the designing stage?
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    Let me know once they are available

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    Thank you DSE. Yes, I prefer to be called just Frits, without the 'Mr' or even the 'Dr' that Germans seem to be so fond of.
    And of course everybody is free to use the nickname he or she prefers on the internet, be you would make me happy if I could call you by your first name too.


    The most import radial transfer angle is the leading direction angle of the A-transfer port. Why make it 40° instead of 30° if you still enjoy the freedom of the designing stage?
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    I understand you.
    Of course, I'm not German, but where I was born and raised, at an early age, respect for people older than you is embedded in education, and even more so for those from whom you study.

    I do not know the correct equivalent in English, as I could in general. If I offended you, please excuse me.
    My name is Slava, among colleagues and friends.

    Now, regarding the radial angle of the purge channel, I will have to clarify.
    I assumed that for an engine with a cylinder volume of 250 cubic centimeters, I would be able to use a backup crankcase from the 193 cc engine, which I had designed and manufactured earlier. And on it, the attachment points of the cylinder are very close. And it is difficult to deploy the purge channel. Now it becomes clear that I will have to design and manufacture a new engine crankcase. .
    Here he is, 193 engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post

    Your engine has a 69,5 mm bore and a 65 mm stroke so it's definitely short-stroke which as you may know, is unfavorable for the specific angle.areas in a two-stroke engine.
    Your 129 mm con rod length is less than twice the stroke. If I were free to design an engine, I'd use a rod/stroke ratio of 2,2 , so noticeably longer than you are planning to use.
    I also understood the axial angles, I'll also redo them and show them. There is, however, a slight problem in this, in my opinion, when processing the sleeve, but I think that a 5-axis machine can handle it.
    I also realized from the connecting rod that I would have to postpone the workpieces and "draw" a new connecting rod.
    On the 193 engine, by the way, I have a connecting rod with a ratio of 2.15.
    I've been wanting to make a connecting rod like this for a long time, but somehow I can't get my hands on it. Now you'll definitely have to do it with a 2.2 ratio.
    (p.s. - again, he writes nonsense, the ratio of the length of the connecting rod to the stroke of the piston, Google interprets in its own way..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post

    Your posts raised a number of questions. And I guessed wrong with your 'jumper' so now I will simply ask instead of guess: what is a graduation channel?
    I'll be watching more closely what Google translates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradella23 View Post
    we weren't able to find the right match with the original cagiva gear spacing, so we always lacked the right timing in super slow corners.. this low revs config helped us covering this problem.
    anyway we'll develop some more during the off season to gain something revving higher.

    in the coming weeks i'll have a pair of derbi (but euro3) cylinders to begin playing with. I want to finally develop a credible alternative to the very good bidalot kit.
    I cover this problem with clutch abuse.

    (Not close to the same power level).
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