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  1. #41146
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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
    So the slower/later timing softened the " hit " making it easier to control tire spinup, and the shorter gearing made it accelerate faster due to the torque multiplication.
    A better set of compromises, in that application.
    Yes, MX is a special case with a special set of requirements to be fast, but you gotta realize the vast majority of members on here don't give a monkeys what happens well under the pipe.

    I give a monkeys,

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    Wobbly, I know you know power off the pipe is always beneficial. Always.

    The moral to my story (which was brought up because of Airstriker mention) mechanical gearing advantage in my case trumped all out power.

    Bottom end power, strangely, is more beneficial the bigger an engine gets for faster lap times.

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    I know I was dribbling on about Enduro bikes before which are largely used below peak, off pipe. Yesterday I was out on the Trials bike. Still good clean 2 stroke fun. . . but I don't think it has any on-pipe power
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny quest View Post
    Wobbly, I know you know power off the pipe is always beneficial. Always.
    What if my monkeys think like kart racers and use a slipper clutch that gradually engages just before peak torque? On a small displacement motor (Freetech 50 or Bucket), that would help cover up gearbox ratio gaps and the power dip at 2/3 RPM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Wiechman View Post
    What if my monkeys think like kart racers and use a slipper clutch that gradually engages just before peak torque? On a small displacement motor (Freetech 50 or Bucket), that would help cover up gearbox ratio gaps and the power dip at 2/3 RPM.

    Every motorcycle with a gearbox and clutch has a slipper clutch. It's your left hand. Good offroad riders constantly slip clutch in corners.

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