Pot - Have you inhaled?

[madboy]

if it wasn't for alcohol and drugs, cops would be able to attend every 111 in 2 minutes.....

just think, without drugs and alcohol -what would happen to society?

It's not the sensible people who did/do it in moderation that will cause the problem, and by the sounds of things many of this people on this site are the sensible ones. I barely drink these days cos I just don't have the time to spend recovering, I don't like being hung over, and I have to be completely straight Mon-Fri in my job.

It's the people who allow it to affect their lives that I have no respect for. Imagine if they didn't do it, and then their kids didn't do it, and then their grandkids didn't do it... perhaps then they managed to get educated AND have a work ethic instilled, and maybe then became productive members of society?... holy shit, then I wouldn't be paying so much friggin tax supporting the low-lifes and I could buy a faster bike!!

[spudchucka]

Talk to a masochist about the pleasures of getting shot...

But seriously, that's scarcely a valid analogy. Common sense has something to do with our aversion to being shot. Regardless of your stance on tobacco, alcohol or other drugs, you would be struggling to prove that common sense operates in the same way there. You could argue that the more intelligent someone is, the more likely they are to avoid these substances. But how do you account for the fact that otherwise highly intelligent people weigh up the risk factors and smoke, drink (or speed...) anyway?

Your gut feeling or intuition may tell you that a specific activity is wrong. Fine. Don't do it. Abortion is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong. Euthanasia is wrong. Eating KFC is wrong. However, laws regulating people's freedoms need to be based on more than your gut feeling...

You're a twister and manipulator of words quite often it seems. I never said that laws should be based on gut intincts. Quit playing silly buggers with what I've said.

But how do you account for the fact that otherwise highly intelligent people weigh up the risk factors and smoke, drink (or speed...) anyway?

They have addictive personalities and the binge drinking mentality that is prevalent in our youth never leaves some people in adulthood.

[Fenix]

the binge drinking mentality that is prevalent in our youth never leaves some people in adulthood

Now, I know I'm weird, but I honestly do not get the binge drinking thing. I know a lot of people who get so drunk they can't walk and don't remember what happened yesterday; but it's just never appealed to me. *shrugs* Oh well. Knowing your limits is a very usefull attribute.

[flyin]

Marijuana abuser = Druggy
Alcohol abuser = 'Holic

Use not Abuse Guys!!! really, evrery drug can be used safely if the user is sensible (informed ) time, place, later commitments etc....


those reports you were quoting about mental illnesses and the effects of smoking...... most probly part of the propaganda fed to the public by the government, drug companies, "them" (ya kno drug companies pushed prohabition due to the fact you cannot patent a natural medicine )

The huge amounts of propaganda fed to the public is scary - there is evidence of their " anti dope marketing " is obvious in this thread and those who have been brainwashed by the governments scare tactics don't even kno what's happening..........

look up what the plant has beeen used for fro generations.... paper .......... sails ............. rope............ food .............. and its a regenerative annual crop soooo.......

if we want to save the planet we all have to GROW MORE POT!!

[Mongoose]

Use not Abuse Guys!!! really, evrery drug can be used safely if the user is sensible (informed ) time, place, later commitments etc....


look up what the plant has beeen used for fro generations.... paper .......... sails ............. rope............ food .............. and its a regenerative annual crop soooo.......

if we want to save the planet we all have to GROW MORE POT!!

You are correct, i doubt any of those things would cause mental illness, but then again those activities do not introduce a drug into the body.

[RiderInBlack]

Use not Abuse Guys!!! really, evrery drug can be used safely if the user is sensible (informed ) time, place, later commitments etc....

What a load of shit. If you really believe that statement your already fu*k mate. Go have another smoke. There are a lot of unsafe drugs that will fu*k you up good a proper from just using it once.
By the way there are therapeutic uses for Marijuana, which I am (as an ex Reg Nurse) quite if favour of, mainly as a chonic pain releaver, a seditive and an apperite enhancer.

[flyin]

I'm not saying there's not drugs that will mess you up with one use but the majority of recreational drugs can be used safely if the user is properly iformed of what its going to do,( good point in legalisation (know what you are doing)) how much to take and how long to lay off afterwards ( eg two tabs of LSD a year will not leave your brain any less retarded than if you hadnt touched a single drug during th year even piss)


the reports coming out now (see the summer issue of "NORMAL NEWS" ) are agreeing that pot influences the area of the brain that some mental illnesses and conditions like epilepsy, it states that it could be positive effects and further testing is being carried out
also it has been found to be a cure for cancer!!!! not straight out fix the cancer but used in treatments ( esp during kemotherapy)

Marajuana is a plant that grows naturally, always has, always wil!! it should be totally legal (mite not happen straight away but it will happen)

[Mongoose]

I'm not saying there's not drugs that will mess you up with one use but the majority of recreational drugs can be used safely if the user is properly iformed of what its going to do,( good point in legalisation (know what you are doing)) how much to take and how long to lay off afterwards ( eg two tabs of LSD a year will not leave your brain any less retarded than if you hadnt touched a single drug during th year even piss)

Would like to see where this "fact" came from.


the reports coming out now (see the summer issue of "NORMAL NEWS" ) are agreeing that pot influences the area of the brain that some mental illnesses and conditions like epilepsy, it states that it could be positive effects and further testing is being carried out

VERY vague, Ooooops, just realised where this "Info" was coming from.

also it has been found to be a cure for cancer!!!! not straight out fix the cancer but used in treatments ( esp during kemotherapy)

As pain relief perhaps? Is that meant to be something new?

Marajuana is a plant that grows naturally, always has, always wil!! it should be totally legal (mite not happen straight away but it will happen)

Hemlock grows wild and free, care for a cup of hemlock tea?

[RiderInBlack]

So does Bella Donna, Tutu, and Fox Glove (I could go on). The point is that "Natural does not equal safe or healthy".
Marijuana has been used for pain relieve by patients who suffer chronic pain (pain that lasts for years) for some time now (suprised that a reader of "Normal" didn't know that), and reseach has been (and is) done to make a prescription version of this plant for that purpose. I for one would have been happier to give this to a patient rather that Morphine on many occasions.
Morphine: Good pain relief, but slows the bowls and can cause nausea. This leads to lowering the appetite and can lead to constipation. Can be physically addictive.
Marijuana: Reasonable Pain relief, does not slow the bowls, does not cause nausea, increases the appetite, not known to cause a physical addiction.

[MikeL]

You're a twister and manipulator of words quite often it seems. I never said that laws should be based on gut intincts. Quit playing silly buggers with what I've said.

They have addictive personalities and the binge drinking mentality that is prevalent in our youth never leaves some people in adulthood.

Now who's getting devious?

1. You used the phrase in connection with a discussion of what is right and wrong. This whole thread is to do with the use and abuse of legal and illegal substances. It is reasonable to infer from your statements that you support the continued criminalization of marijuana, and would not oppose the banning of presently legal substances, more because of your own experiences and conscience than from the findings of scientific research and logical argument.
If that constitutes "twisting" and "manipulation" it says more about your perception than my intention.

2 Anyone who drinks alcohol at all has an addictive personality??? Did I refer to binge drinking? How about distinguishing between "use" and "abuse" for a start?

[MikeL]

So does Bella Donna, Tutu, and Fox Glove (I could go on). The point is that "Natural does not equal safe or healthy".
Marijuana has been used for pain relieve by patients who suffer chronic pain (pain that lasts for years) for some time now (suprised that a reader of "Normal" didn't know that), and reseach has been (and is) done to make a prescription version of this plant for that purpose. I for one would have been happier to give this to a patient rather that Morphine on many occasions.
Morphine: Good pain relief, but slows the bowls and can cause nausea. This leads to lowering the apperite and can lead to constipation. Can be physically addictive.
Marijuana: Reasonable Pain relief, does not slow the bowls, does not cause nausea, increases the apperite, not known to cause a physical addiction.

But you must be aware from a recent court case that society cannot condone the use of this substance in any circumstance, even for those suffering the pain of a terminal illness. Surely you are not saying that in some cases it is acceptable??

[RiderInBlack]

Surely you are not saying that in some cases it is acceptable??

Surely I am. As far as I'm concerned the law needs to change to allow prescription use of Marijuana. We do for Morphine. This by the way is my oppinion.

[White trash]

I actually get a laugh when people presume I'm a smoker... quite funny to see their reaction at times..
must be the shaved head, tattoos and missing teeth...
I really don't care if people are smokers or not... just dont do it at my house

Mate of mine has exactly the same issue. Fuck it's funny.....

[Biff]

But you must be aware from a recent court case that society cannot condone the use of this substance in any circumstance, even for those suffering the pain of a terminal illness. Surely you are not saying that in some cases it is acceptable??

I'm firmly in the camp of it being acceptable for medical use.

A very close relative of mine smokes three joints a day. One in the morning, one early afternoon and one in the evening. She does this in order to alleviate the terrible back pain that she's suffered from for years, following a horrific attack.

Prior to smoking pot she virtually rattled when she walked, such were the number of pills that she had to take throughout the day. Now she leads an active life, holds down a job and saves the UK taxpayer 10's of thousands of pounds every year in prescription painkillers, anti-inflammatories etc, and her doctor approves.

The only person that she’s harming is herself.

A friend of hers who doesn’t smoke it herself, grows it specifically for my relative.

My relatives quality of life has improved.

Other than smoking pot for the last few years, she has never been on the wrong side of the law.

She’d prefer it to be available as a prescription drug, that way she’d get it for free (!) and she wouldn’t be breaking the law, which is something that really concerns her. Nobody could ever convince me that what she is doing is morally wrong. Irrespective of what the law says.

[**R1**]

I'm firmly in the camp of it being acceptable for medical use.

A very close relative of mine smokes three joints a day. One in the morning, one early afternoon and one in the evening. She does this in order to alleviate the terrible back pain that she's suffered from for years, following a horrific attack.

Prior to smoking pot she virtually rattled when she walked, such were the number of pills that she had to take throughout the day. Now she leads an active life, holds down a job and saves the UK taxpayer 10's of thousands of pounds every year in prescription painkillers, anti-inflammatories etc, and her doctor approves.

The only person that she’s harming is herself.

A friend of hers who doesn’t smoke it herself, grows it specifically for my relative.

My relatives quality of life has improved.

Other than smoking pot for the last few years, she has never been on the wrong side of the law.

She’d prefer it to be available as a prescription drug, that way she’d get it for free (!) and she wouldn’t be breaking the law, which is something that really concerns her. Nobody could ever convince me that what she is doing is morally wrong. Irrespective of what the law says.

Thats a very good speach, but i just wanted to say i love ya signature

and this whole pot thing could go on foreva...so lets all go get stoned and get over it .........or not what ever ya prefer.