Pot - Have you inhaled?

[vifferman]

I did not have sex with that woman.




Sorry - what was the question again?

RIB - where did you get this:
"1 in 4 people have a potential of becaming Schizophrenic. "Pot" can cause a potential Schizophrenic to became Schizophrenic. Then you'll need drugs to stop you from "tripping"."
from?
My wife's cousin, and the brother of a lady we know, both developed schizophrenia related to smoking dope. My wife's also convinced I'm mental because some dope somehow accidentally entered my system on an occasion or three, but I reckon it (my mentalness) was the incredible stress of a very boring and pointless job.



I fired a guy once who was a habitual smoker of the electric puha, as he became very unreliable. And the receptionist/secretary of the same place used to have a joint most days before work to cope with the stress/lunacy of the job. Or it might have been just to cope with working with me. :spudwhat:

[onearmedbandit]

You're fucking kidding me? You're supposed to inhale?

I want a refund, right now!

No seriously, I'll have a puff most nights, relaxes me yet actually motivates me to do stuff, to be creative and to think outside the square. Some of my best ideas I've ever had have come to me from having a smoke and pondering lifes challenges. And its not as though I'm 'lazy brained' when I haven't smoked. However, each to their own. I have never forced pot on anyone and never will. Its a personal decision.

Each to their own- but...

Or "I used to, but now I have a life"
Or "I used to, but then I grew up"

hmmmm.

[Jackrat]

I used to smoke a shit load,
Now I don't,no big deal.

[Deano]

All drugs are bad and I wouldn't touch them.

I do however chug back a dozen beer each night and bash the missus for a laugh.

[RiderInBlack]

RIB - where did you get this:
"1 in 4 people have a potential of becaming Schizophrenic. "Pot" can cause a potential Schizophrenic to became Schizophrenic. Then you'll need drugs to stop you from "tripping"."
from?

One of my Nursing Deg papers I had to research a recreational drug and write a teaching plan for a school on it. I did Marijuana and some of these threoies came from research papers I had read on the subject. As for "Then you'll need drugs to stop you from "tripping" ", I was refuring to anti-psychotic drugs some people suffering from Schizophrenia are often required to take to stop them from suffering from hallucination. I find this a little ironic seeing that people often take recreational drugs to get "out of it", which could lead to them needing drugs to get "back into it". Just something to think about, aye.

[madboy]

Its a personal decision. Each to their own-

right on... fully agree.

i did it when in amsterdam, why? cos there are some things u just need to do while there. didn't really inspire me to make habit of it.

personally i have a problem with the legality of it - i.e. i don't do it cos i don't like doing illicit substances and running the risk, however small, of getting a drug conviction... which makes me a huge friggin hypocrite cos I think my attitude to speed/traffic/runners are well known.

but at least i'm fully in control of myself when i do it...

[MikeL]

How can you offer a credible argument either for or against something if you have no personal experience of it?

Answer: you can observe the consequences in others. You can research the question scientifically. You can extrapolate from analogous examples.

All very useful.

BUT...

... ultimately you are you, a unique individual, and your unique personal experience is the only thing that will make your conclusions absolutely and unchallengeably valid for you.

The fact that your conclusions may be different from mine in no way invalidates either.

[Fenix]

Never have, although I considered it a few times it was only because I was in a particularly desperate (depression) place, and am now pretty sure I never will. I've got a bit of a bad attitude towards stoners, and druggies in the greater picture, because I've had a few bad experiences with them. Oh well.

[SPman]

I used to smoke a shit load,
Now I don't,no big deal.

Same here - I found other ways of going to sleep.

[spudchucka]

How can you offer a credible argument either for or against something if you have no personal experience of it?

You don't need to get shot to know its going to be a bad experience.

Answer: you can observe the consequences in others. You can research the question scientifically. You can extrapolate from analogous examples.

Sometimes you just know in your gut the rights and wrongs of a specific activity etc. Why is that? Intuition perhaps.

... ultimately you are you, a unique individual, and your unique personal experience is the only thing that will make your conclusions absolutely and unchallengeably valid for you.

The fact that your conclusions may be different from mine in no way invalidates either.

I'll agree, but not entirely on the issue of drug use / abuse.

[onearmedbandit]

Never have, although I considered it a few times it was only because I was in a particularly desperate (depression) place, and am now pretty sure I never will. I've got a bit of a bad attitude towards stoners, and druggies in the greater picture, because I've had a few bad experiences with them. Oh well.

Why on earth would someone consider using marijuana to aid with depression if they've never used it before?? Seems to me there must be deeper reasons. Also a pretty prejudice view as well, not that anything I could say would ever change that. But its *similar* to saying I don't like Scottish people because I've had a few bad experiences with them. (not that I have had any bad experiences with Scottish people, but feel as though if I don't clarify that point someones bound to ask me what my problem with Scottish people is!!)

BTW Fenix, many marijuana users hide their use due to attitudes like yours, which don't get me wrong, your entitled to. However, I wonder how many people you interact with every day use pot. Got you thinking, because the users are all over societies spread.

[Fenix]

When you're as depressed as I was at the time, you'd consider trying anything without thinking if it'd even help. Guess you've never been that desperate for any way out. *shrugs* I'm over it.

As for the bias, because one of my "friends" wanted to go get high she bailed on me and left me with no money in the middle of nowhere. Considering she knew I was quite unstable at the time, and decided her high was more important than her "friend", it left me a bit bitter. That was the first time a druggie let me down, but by far not the last. And I'm *trying* to not let it happen anymore. I'm satisfied that my bias is reasonably well based.

I'm not going to hold biases against something someone is, gender, sexuality, religion, race; but what you chose, to me, is different.

I'm sure someone will find a way to turn what I've said on me, but I don't really mind. Everyone's hypocritical in some form or another.

[SPman]

That was the first time a druggie let me down, but by far not the last

"Never trust a Junkie!" Ministry - Just One Fix

[Blakamin]

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"Never trust a Junkie!" Ministry - Just One Fix

"Never trust a Junkie!" me - related to one

[onearmedbandit]

Side note for all non-smokers here.

Do you label anyone who smokes marijuana as a 'druggie'?
Because if you do, do you also label anyone who drinks alcohol as an 'alckie'(sp)?

Not that I really care, but it seems as though a few are very quick to tarnish everyone with the same brush. I've never considered myself a 'druggie', nor has anyone to my knowledge refered to me as one. See, while I smoke most nights, there is so much more to me than drugs.

And a junkie is a long way removed from a pot smoker, and I know you have personal experience Blakamin. But its so easy to generalise rather than accept there are many respectable, hardworking people who choose to smoke a little herb.