Lest we forget... New Zealand's shame

[Winston001]

What the fuck got you lot going? What is the point of a thread like this?

I think (for me anyway) the whole rave section should be avoided if this thread is anything to go by

Your reaction - and others - is the point. You don't want to discuss this, fair enough. Others do.

And I think the time is long past for talking. Violence against children is one of the few things which I'm passionate about stopping. I've watched and listened as Ministers of the Crown and community workers talk and promise for 15 years - and still it goes on.

There isn't an easy answer. There isn't one answer. But damn it, there has to be something we can do to change things. There will always be a few sick types but at the moment NZ has far more than its fair share.

[Badjelly]

What the fuck got you lot going? What is the point of a thread like this?

Your reaction - and others - is the point. You don't want to discuss this, fair enough. Others do.

So far, this thread hasn't been a discussion, it's been yet another KB righteous indignation contest.

What's needed? Tougher laws on child abuse? More intervention by CYFS? Overhaul of the benefit system? Discuss away.

[marty]

As opposed to marty, who's real proud of sitting on his butt.

Dave

a big assumption to make dave.

so today, while sitting in town waiting for someone, I was privy to a conversation along the lines of 'aunty is beating her kids but i'm not a nark - someone needs to give her the bash'

i couldn't stand it, so i left.









actually, i confronted the lady and reminded her of recent events, and that she would not be a nark, but instead she may save someone's life. i thought i was going to get the bash, but instead she thanked me, and said she was going to say something to the aunty.


so dave, what are you doing?

[imdying]

Fuck it, let em kill each other... one less coon is only doing the world a favour anyway.

[mdnzz]

a big assumption to make dave.

so today, while sitting in town waiting for someone, I was privy to a conversation along the lines of 'aunty is beating her kids but i'm not a nark - someone needs to give her the bash'

i couldn't stand it, so i left.

actually, i confronted the lady and reminded her of recent events, and that she would not be a nark, but instead she may save someone's life. i thought i was going to get the bash, but instead she thanked me, and said she was going to say something to the aunty.


so dave, what are you doing?

I applaud you.

That is exactly what is needed and more people should grow the balls an step up to these wasted spaces that inhabit our country.

If people stood in front of a child being beaten, how often do you think the offender is likely to attack a person who can defend themselves.

Yes there are some out there that would, but for an assault on an adult they can get 7 years in prison.

What do you get for bashing, maiming a defenceless child?

These types of people are gutless spineless weaklings who prey on the defenceless
and deserve nothing, no benefits, no support, NO OXYGEN

[Katman]

Jyniah Te Awa age 10 months.......beaten to death by her mother for being ugly

I would suggest if you're going to post such an emotive thread you get all your facts right.

It was the child's babysitter (the mother's cousin) responsible for her death.

[naphazoline]

...... and then, when inside you'll get far worse than you ever did to the kids in your care. Rot in hell bastards.

yeah...as much as some of those prison inmates are scum,at least they'll deal to these pyschopathic so called parents. it's a bit oxymoronic really,to think that a violent offender still has some sort of morals, when it comes to child abuse.
it's just a matter of getting them in prison,as it seems that some get off through the justice system.

p.s
sorry if i'm raving on,but i feel EXTREMELY strongly about this sort of subject.
no child deserves to be treated like these children have,leastly by the parents/guardians

[vifferman]

While these (perhaps extreme?) examples are terrible, you are making some generalisations about the culture, race and circumstances of child abuse.

[imdying]

While these (perhaps extreme?) examples are terrible, you are making some generalisations about the culture, race and circumstances of child abuse.

Well we only see what the media shows us... but generally looks like the 'natives', instead of standing up for the children, join in the 'fun'... I honestly expect if I were in that position, my friends would beat the ever loving shite out of me, as I would richly deserve, and vice versa.

[R6_kid:Me]

Maybe executing a few, if not all of those found undeniably guilty of these atrocities will send out the right message. I really don't understand the thought processes these people possess - if they have a thought process at all.

They are a stain on our countries image and a disgrace to their families and to their peoples heritage.

[imdying]

Part of me loves that idea, but where to stop? Parents that let their kids become obese from too much Playstation and junk food? Whack them too? Having a lot of fat cunts digraces the country too... look at the redicule heaped upon the yanks..

[vifferman]

Well we only see what the media shows us... but generally looks like the 'natives', instead of standing up for the children, join in the 'fun'.

It's (to use a cliche) an ongoing cycle of violence.
There are hidden (though usually less extreme) examples of violence against children, promulgated by fundamentalist religions preaching "spare the rod and spoil the child", and these do not pertain to any particular ethnic group. You throw that sort of teaching into a situation where a parent is tired from working long hours, has a difficult child, is frustrated because he/she doesn't know how to handle disobedience or what seems like willful naughtiness, and you end up with abuse.
I guess that's still cultural. Even today, many cultures (religious or otherwise) embrace physical chastisement as acceptable.

[Winston001]

I would suggest if you're going to post such an emotive thread you get all your facts right.

It was the child's babysitter (the mother's cousin) responsible for her death.

Agreed - fixed. Ironically I checked sources for each except her, because I had a newspaper article about her death open at the time.


None of which excuses the fact that a young woman battered a baby slowly, over a month and a half, to death.

[<Rhino>]

Part of me loves that idea, but where to stop? Parents that let their kids become obese from too much Playstation and junk food? Whack them too? Having a lot of fat cunts digraces the country too... look at the redicule heaped upon the yanks..

Having people like you that walk around thinking their hollier than fucking thou is a discrace too! coons this - fucking fat cunts that.......pfffft, wanker! Must be fucken hard being perfect eh!!

[imdying]

Having people like you that walk around thinking their hollier than fucking thou is a discrace too! coons this - fucking fat cunts that.......pfffft, wanker! Must be fucken hard being perfect eh!!

Let me guess... you're a fat coon?