Lest we forget... New Zealand's shame

[98tls]

So your answer is what? Start up a thread/rant. That's constructive. I see it's been overtaken by racists and hysterical "cut their balls off" (sensible sentencing trust) types.

Them i dont mind but sure as eggs are eggs there will be a faggot along shortly to fuck things up.

[naphazoline]

So your answer is what? Start up a thread/rant. That's constructive. I see it's been overtaken by racists and hysterical "cut their balls off" (sensible sentencing trust) types.


I use the site for bike related info/contacts etc. Sometimes I'm guilty of being curious enough to venture into corners of the site I shouldn't - like this one.

Why don't you stick to talkback back for this shit.

not sure what you're getting all excited about,but this is the "rant or rave" section.

[quote from kiwi biker forum page]

Rant or Rave
***Talk about any non-motorbike stuff here***

[naphazoline]

All? Well, maybe only those subject to 'discipline' from "damaged" adults that didn't know how/when to stop, or couldn't.....

that's a fair point.

[Mom]

New Zealand's underclasses don't read the newspaper or watch the 6:00pm news. They don't think they're doing anything wrong. How do you propose delivering the "right message" to them?

Neither are these all dark skinned either. I fostered children for many years, and without a doubt the worst cases of neglect and abuse came from what I can only term "white trash" homes.

I was raised in a very dysfunctional home, complete with the black eyes, split lips/ears from a drunkard father, and nursed my alcoholic Mother through a broken jaw and pelvis. The training I undertook before fostering focused in large parts on the reasons why abuse happens, as a parent I could not get my head around some of the stuff I had heard about happening to children. I simply could not understand how people could treat kids like they did.

I got out of my family in reasonable shape, so what made me able to do that and not others. It boils down to experience outside of the home. These families are isolated within a very tiny sphere of contacts. All of their associates on a personal level are the same as them, there are no "good" examples on display. They are poor, makes no difference why they have no money, they dont. They dont go out to churches, sports clubs etc where they may be exposed to a more "normal" way of dealing with stuff. No amount of intervention makes a difference.

The worst case I ever had to deal with was three little (white) girls who were found living in squalor, sleeping in one room with a urine soaked matress on the floor for a bed and exceta of unknow origin all over the house. The social workers had to literally wade through rubbish when they went in the house. These children had been living on dog food! I wont go on, but it was worse than appalling!

I was dreading meeting the mother of these children at the first supervised access. I simply was at a loss as to how she could have allowed this to happen, until I saw her. She was 23 (her children 8, 6 & 5). She was playing football with the eldest one (at this point I did not realise who she was) and my first thought was "my God this woman needs to be taken into care". Later testing showed this poor female could not demonstrate how to cross a road safely herslf, or even make a peanut butter sandwich. Her mother (not quite 40) was there also, she had just had her 8 year old twins taken off her.

There it was, generational abuse, right in my face. The file on this family was a foot thick, they had been the recipients of so much intervention and still the abuse went on.

These little girls were permanently removed from the family and placed with new families. You see the adds in the paper sometimes. The little silhouette child looking for a new family. There was nothing that could be done to prevent this woman having more children. Incredibly sad.

[Mom]

I see it's been overtaken by racists and hysterical "cut their balls off" (sensible sentencing trust) types.

I beg to differ quite strongly mate.

Why don't you stick to talkback back for this shit.

Why dont you take a quick peek at the subject of the thread and if you dont like it dont read further. Seriously mate, it is a free world, no-one is forcing you to read, let alone comment.

[ManDownUnder]

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Just so you know - I can't give you bling - I ran out. And dammit - you already have my respect. What now?

MDU

[Mom]

What now? MDU

I would have said oral sex, but that would have been naughty and off topic, and Maha would disapprove

Thanks MDU!

[vifferman]

I would have said oral sex, but that would have been naughty

That IS naughty!
But that's two good posts in a row, and I could only bling for one.

[short-circuit]

not sure what you're getting all excited about,but this is the "rant or rave" section.

[quote from kiwi biker forum page]

Rant or Rave
***Talk about any non-motorbike stuff here***

I'm not saying you don't have the right to discuss non-biking issues.


I was asking Winston's motive was for starting the thread and then later lamenting the predictable venomous/vengeful/simplistic/blaming/racist/axe-grinding/confused/apathetic responses.


To the person who anonymously red repped me and told me "well fuck off then"...congratulations on finding a forum where you can feel big at the expense of someone else and do it in secret. No doubt you have some really insightful ideas on how to reduce child abuse and family violence along with other serious social issues. I'll now do exactly as you suggested and "fuck off" now.

[naphazoline]

I'm not saying you don't have the right to discuss non-biking issues.


I was asking Winston's motive was for starting the thread and then later lamenting the predictable venomous/vengeful/simplistic/blaming/racist/axe-grinding/confused/apathetic responses.

sorry sc.


[/QUOTE]To the person who anonymously red repped me and told me "well fuck off then"...congratulations on finding a forum where you can feel big at the expense of someone else and do it in secret. No doubt you have some really insightful ideas on how to reduce child abuse and family violence along with other serious social issues. I'll no do exactly as you suggested and "fuck off now".[/QUOTE]

i've only given out green.

[short-circuit]

sorry sc.

All good naphazoline. Leaving now this time...for good...promise.

[scumdog]

All good naphazoline. Leaving now this time...for good...promise.

A big jug of HTFU would help you - what ya gonna do with all the other bits of your life that are not as nice as you would like? run?

Stick around, enjoy the circus.

[vifferman]

i've only given out green.

+1

But... you can give rep anonymously....?




I don't feel strongly enough about anyone to red-bling them.

[naphazoline]

+1

But... you can give rep anonymously....?

nah...i'd rather tell someone what's on my mind then do that in secret.the rep shit means nothing to me.after all,this stuff is only internet conversation,so i'd rather just give green.
pretty hard to pass judgement on someone ya don't know,but if it makes ya feel better,put all ya bad rep on me.i couldn't give a flying fuck

[Maha]

All good naphazoline. Leaving now this time...for good...promise.

You mean for ever and ever amen???
The rep system can be a good thing in that, the bad comments left by someone you dont know must surely come from a very very uptight person. Well, thats the I see it. They must think (in thier own little world) that they are hurting you with a little red dot.

There should be an option in your User CP added to have or not have rep received!!!

Maybe Mental Pants Wearer could attend to this??