The best F3 riders?

[roadracingoldfart]

A guy i know off in Aussie racing in the 400 cup class has a Greame France CBR400RR with a reliable 90 R/W HP.
It seems to be a matter of , you bring the money and ill build you a winner.
Thats for a 400 by the way , not a 450.
And i wonder why my 400 only has 59 HP.

[scracha]

A guy i know off in Aussie racing in the 400 cup class has a Greame France CBR400RR with a reliable 90 R/W HP.
It seems to be a matter of , you bring the money and ill build you a winner.
Thats for a 400 by the way , not a 450.
And i wonder why my 400 only has 59 HP.

Stock CBR puts out about 55 ponies so you can't complain.

If the motogp 800's put out 250bhp then surely the jap factories could make a 400 put out a reliable 90bhp? I'm thinking 20,000 RPM around the coro loop

Oh...umm...if he's putting out 90R/W then I can't imagine his bike complying with the Formula 400 rules.

[driftn]

You are all getting away from the point.

This thread is THE BEST F3 RIDERS. not F3 bikes.

best F3 racer in my opinion would have to be 180 Dean Bentley

Cause he doesn't cheat like a fair few of them fellas do.

[roadracingoldfart]

[QUOTE=driftn;1842095]
180 Dean Bentley



Who ??? Is he new ?? Never heard of him.

[driftn]

[QUOTE=roadracingoldfart;1842452]

180 Dean Bentley



Who ??? Is he new ?? Never heard of him.

Motomart PostClassics Junior

16/06/2007 21/07/2007 18/08/2007 22/09/2007 13/10/2007
Pos No. Name Total R1 R2 R3 Total R1 R2 R3 Total R1 R2 R3 Total R1 R2 R3 Total R1 R2 Total
1 76 Chris Sales 308 16 25 25 66 25 25 20 70 25 22 x 47 25 25 25 75 25 25 50
2 180 Dean Bentley 265 22 22 22 66 22 20 18 60 22 25 x 47 15 15 18 48 22 22 44
3 170 Paul Martindale 222 18 18 18 54 18 18 15 51 18 20 x 38 16 16 16 48 13 18 31
4 35 Paul Brown 164 14 14 16 44 12 14 14 40 16 0 x 16 20 22 22 64 x x x
5 12 Jarrod Wintle 149 25 20 20 65 20 22 22 64 20 x x 20 0 x x 0 x x x
6 83 Eamon Timms 139 0 x x 0 15 12 13 40 14 16 x 30 14 13 15 42 12 15 27
7 196 Braden Tate 125 x x x x x x x x 13 14 x 27 22 18 20 60 18 20 38
8 40 Bruce Sutton 122 13 11 13 37 14 11 12 37 12 15 x 27 x x x x 10 11 21
9 131 John Carter 107 15 16 15 46 x x x x 15 18 x 33 x x x x 15 13 28
10 19. Gavin McKay 98 20 x x 20 x x x x x x x x 18 20 14 52 14 12 26
11 97 Peter Ivanoff 86 4 5 8 17 9 6 7 22 6 0 x 6 11 11 12 34 7 x 7
12 105 Phil Chandler 80 8 8 0 16 8 8 8 24 7 10 x 17 0 10 0 10 5 8 13
13 42 Peter Ellis 73 12 10 11 33 0 x x 0 9 13 x 22 0 x x 0 8 10 18
14 117 Brandon Edgar 72 11 13 14 38 x x x x x x x x 13 12 x 25 9 x 9
15 18 Barry New 66 10 12 x 22 13 15 16 44 0 x x 0 x x x x x x x
16 135 Warren Marsh 57 x x x x 16 16 25 57 x x x x x x x x x x x
17 44g Robert Grover 51 3 7 10 20 10 10 11 31 x x x x 0 x x 0 x x x
18 144. Abby Mes 44 x x x x x x x x x x x x 10 9 10 29 6 9 15
19 141 Bill James 44 6 6 7 19 6 9 10 25 x x x x x x x x x x x
20 64 Tim Baker 39 0 15 0 15 11 13 0 24 0 x x 0 x x x x x x x
21 64b John Baker 39 x x x x x x x x x x x x 12 14 13 39 x x x
22 277 Lyndon Perry 36 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x 20 16 36
23 176 Neil Chappell 36 x x x x x x x x 11 0 x 11 x x x x 11 14 25
24 63 Paul Billington 30 9 9 12 30 0 x x 0 x x x x x x x x x x x
25 201 Shawn Edge 29 7 3 0 10 x x x x 8 11 x 19 0 x x 0 x x x
26 96 Johnathon Wagener 23 x x x x 7 7 9 23 x x x x x x x x x x x
27 44o John Ooink 23 2 1 6 9 4 4 6 14 x x x x x x x x x x x
28 64h John Humphrey 22 x x x x x x x x 10 12 x 22 x x x x x x x
29 102 Keith Chandler 18 5 4 9 18 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
30 64r Matt Rennie 16 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x 16 0 16
31 99k Nicholas Keenan 15 0 x x 0 5 5 5 15 x x x x x x x x x x x
32 12 Mike Cudby 11 x x x x x x x x x x x x 0 x 11 11 x x x
33 99 Geoff Long 8 1 2 5 8 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
34 381 Jimmy Weafer 4 0 0 4 4 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
35 111 Ray Hayward 0 0 0 x 0 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
36 75 Dave Cole 0 x x x x x x x x x x x x 0 x x 0 x x x
EPIC FAIL

[roogazza]

Thanks for the lesson. The Roberts brothers had nc30's that were as fast as Mcmurdo's zxr400 i.e. faster than all but a couple of sv's around at the moment.
* but really you need a wider frame of reference than just looking at what's going around today.

That last sentence says it all svr ! depends who's there !!!!!! Gaz.

[scracha]

Ain't ya never heard of tables...sheesh.


I thought Dean rides in pro twins?

Anyway...the best F3 bike is far more interesting.

[worm13]

Hmm well I thought Matt Rennie this year was well and truely on the pace in the wet for F3 I belive he set the fastest lap in 1 of the races at round 3 so id say he would be up there (I wished I could say myself lol)
To be honest about the bike id have to say from what ive raced and riden the ZXR is a better choice over the NC30 but over in oz the RVF400 looks like the bike to be on and then followed by the FZR however to bikes we dont see much of at the track in NZ.
The reason for why I say the ZXR is a better choice is inital setup cost which has you on the pace before to much development work has to be done.
Better front end up side downs are the best choice... hello look at most f3 SV's, Then followed by the fact that your running on 17's front and rear opens up a better choice of tyres being slicks and wets.
Power seems to found with out to many Huge Ridiculous Cost aka HRC parts.
By no means am I a Honda basher when I looked at getting back to racing I looked long and hard at both the NC30 and ZXR, the ZXR just seemed to be the better package to work with.

[eelracing]

A well ridden proddy 250 two stroke would eat the lot of ya overweight tarts.And dont even get me started about those handbag SV's

[roadracingoldfart]

A well ridden proddy 250 two stroke would eat the lot of ya overweight tarts.And dont even get me started about those handbag SV's

Yer mate Drew can vouch to that ....... ohh no he cant

[roadracingoldfart]

I think there are a bunch of guys and girls out there that are fast on thier day.
Matt Rennie and Braden Tate and Chris Fry are fast for sure but they are also new to the game and will develop further as can be seen from thier progress so far.
As the skill level raises the closer they will become and with the likes of Nicksta's ability to go fast in the rain etc the level of that skill is just in need of a fine hone to make all the diferance.
Gavin McKay was a very fast consistant runner a few years ago but a garage fire that totalled his entire bike collection saw that progress stopped. He was on line to do very well.

I call on any experianced riders to mentor someone as i have this previous 2 years and give the knowledge back to the sport. Its just a matter of helping with fine tuning and a bit of guidance to help the next generation of rider. Any riders wanting help get hold of me and ill try to find someone to help out where possible. Anyone wanting to help out get hold of me as well and maybe , just maybe we can make an impact to a sport we all love and want to see develop.

Cheers Paul.

[Deano]

I thought Dean rides in pro twins?

Not at Wangas or Paeroa bro.

[svr]

I think there are a bunch of guys and girls out there that are fast on thier day.
Matt Rennie and Braden Tate and Chris Fry are fast for sure but they are also new to the game and will develop further as can be seen from thier progress so far.

I call on any experianced riders to mentor someone as i have this previous 2 years and give the knowledge back to the sport. Its just a matter of helping with fine tuning and a bit of guidance to help the next generation of rider. Any riders wanting help get hold of me and ill try to find someone to help out where possible. Anyone wanting to help out get hold of me as well and maybe , just maybe we can make an impact to a sport we all love and want to see develop.

Cheers Paul.

Actually, one of the good things about NZ road racing is that older riders like being asked for advice - it's a flattering / respectful thing to do. It's also a free and painless way to learn.
Having seen many riders over the years there is one constant in spotting talent - Fast riders are almost always fast from the start. Normally they crash a bit but the speed is there i.e. no more than a second off the pace on a 250 / F3 behind a proven national-level rider after say 6 months of racing.
Just a thought.

[codgyoleracer]

Having seen many riders over the years there is one constant in spotting talent - Fast riders are almost always fast from the start. Normally they crash a bit but the speed is there i.e. no more than a second off the pace on a 250 / F3 behind a proven national-level rider after say 6 months of racing.
Just a thought.[/QUOTE]

I would tend to agree with that, the only exception that springs to mind was the Hiscock boys. In their early days Neville was quick straight out of the box - whilst Dave took longer to learn his trade - but was just as quick at the end.
Maybe old fart could comment - if i got that right , as i was a tender wee thing when all that was going on & maybe talking bollocks. :-)

[Deano]

i.e. no more than a second off the pace on a 250 / F3 behind a proven national-level rider after say 6 months of racing.
Just a thought.

Under that criteria, the fastest VMCC F3 racer would be Bryce Meads ?