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    It's me again... Returning to my research project for a moment... I'm still lacking Kiwi recordings, so if you can share your voice with me, I'd appreciate your help...
    Once again, you'll find everything I need here: http://rapidshare.com/files/17145181...t-package2.zip
    Dealing with the recordings and the questionnaire should take you no more than 5 minutes (I know this, 'cause I've already got a couple of packages from S.Africa, and these good people said they had spent less than 5 minutes on this). Your 5 minutes can literally change my whole life
    Also, if you don't feel like doing anything yourself, perhaps there's someone around ya who's really open to such stuff...
    Thank you!

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    you can always reach me at: gkrawczyk6 at gmail.com

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    I'm especially counting on #1 and her 'team of dulcet tones' as I can already see there's a problem with female voices in general within this study...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel View Post
    I can already see there's a problem with female voices in general
    Married men will be nodding their heads at I this I'd say....

    I'd love to help, but I'm English, so I'll just wait and laugh at the results.
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    [QUOTE=MisterD;1840228
    I'd love to help, but I'm English, so I'll just wait and laugh at the results.[/QUOTE]

    Ditto on the English thing, the main reason I come on here is because I can understand written kiwi. In the real outside world we have kind of a mutual misunderstanding arrangement going on.

    I.e. "Twenty Benson and Hedges please"

    "sorry?"

    "Twenty Benson and Hedges please"

    "I don't think we sell them"

    "they're right behind you!"

    "what are sorry?"

    "them there look your hands leaning on them"

    "OH, Benson and Hedges we call them"


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    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    Ditto on the English thing, the main reason I come on here is because I can understand written kiwi. In the real outside world we have kind of a mutual misunderstanding arrangement going on.

    I.e. "Twenty Benson and Hedges please"

    "sorry?"

    "Twenty Benson and Hedges please"

    "I don't think we sell them"

    "they're right behind you!"

    "what are sorry?"

    "them there look your hands leaning on them"

    "OH, Benson and Hedges we call them"


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    Ha haaaaaa, that's funny as fuck.
    They're called B&H mate
    Pronounced bee'nayche!
    For example:
    ME: bee'nayche twennys pleeze mate?
    HIM: den dollars dwenty, dank you please
    ME: Cheers
    HIM: dank you, gum again
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    Quote Originally Posted by kezzafish View Post
    Ha haaaaaa, that's funny as fuck.
    They're called B&H mate
    Pronounced bee'nayche!
    For example:
    ME: bee'nayche twentys pleeze mate?
    HIM: den dollars twenty, dank you please
    ME: Cheers
    HIM: dank you, gum again
    Your on it dude. Daily occurrence I'm afraid, how about

    "A pint of old Dark please"

    "A jug of VB ? Right you are"

    Not once but twice man, I'd got piss coming out me nostrils by the end of the night.

    Or

    "A steak pie please"

    "Mince and Cheese it is, anything else?"

    Life's exciting when you never know what your gonna get eh.

    Good luck with the study Grendel, Let us know how it turns out mate.
    Oh bugger

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel View Post
    I'm especially counting on #1 and her 'team of dulcet tones' as I can already see there's a problem with female voices in general within this study...
    I haven't forgotten sir. I wonder though, would a youtube video work? Just thinking of the quickest way we can get it to you is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    would a youtube video work
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Show us yer tits!
    You first

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    wait til you hear the aussie tones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    BTW - calling all Welly based BITCHES...

    I think this could be a good night all us girls cackling and recording our gorgeous dulcet tones

    ....hell Mr Poland - we could even do some singstar recordings and send those to ya
    Hmmm I have a digital dictaphone (with a multidirectional microphone) and all the appropriate software to download and email off an MP3 file if you're that keen?!

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    Very interesting instances, these three... The occurrences of “den dollars” and “gum again” are very nice, as they show how important aspiration of syllable-initial plosives before vowels is in English. Here, the speaker (the shop assistant) probably does say “[t]en dollars” and “[k]ome again” (as well as “[t]ank you”), but it's the lack of the additional puff of air after the [t] and [k] (i.e. aspiration) that creates the impression of exaggerated voicing (rather than lack of additional devoicing = aspiration); hence, [t]->/d/, [k]->/g/, etc...
    In other words, the shop assistant does distinguish between /t/ and /d/ in his own speech, but his /t/ is realized without any aspiration and can be interpreted as /d/ by e.g. Kiwi English speakers... Nice one, I'll show it to my fellow students some time (we also don't have the process of aspiration in Polish by default, so we have to learn it if we want to sound more natural or native-like for whatever purpose)

    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    Good luck with the study Grendel, Let us know how it turns out mate.
    I sure will
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    I haven't forgotten sir. I wonder though, would a youtube video work? Just thinking of the quickest way we can get it to you is all.
    I guess it would work, as it's rather easy to convert a video/audio file into pure audio... As long as the quality is OK, it should work

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    YouTube audio is horribly over-compressed.

    Just record a raw sound file onto the computer and use LAME to turn it into an MP3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire eyes View Post
    wait til you hear the aussie tones
    I have listened to an Aussie recording that I'd received from a young bloke from a small rural town in New South Wales, it was done really well and his speech had all the features that I want to investigate; though I'm looking forward to sheila voices , as linguists say women are usually one step ahead of men when it comes to certain aspects of speech – I'd like to check whether this holds water or not (my supervisor is really sceptical with respect to this theory)

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    ooo that sounds interesting. I'm a bit of a 'creative speaker' at times and don't have hang ups about good engrish dying out. I have a time and a place for my perfunctly put together communications - both written and verbal So I would not be surprised to find that my speech is a bit evolved - somewhere Hitcher and others would probably cring to go if I am completely honest

    Change is inevitable - growth is optional and all that.

    So, which of my split personalities voices would you like to hear Mr Poland?

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