Terrorist (namely muslim) cowards

[Oscar]

Wrong.... This describeD the IRA. Note the past tense.

They still have weapons.

[Hitcher]

We're starting to split hairs now.

You asked the question. Unless it was supposed to be enigmatically rhetorical...

[Oscar]

You asked the question. Unless it was supposed to be enigmatically rhetorical...

It is now.

What a great phrase:enigmatically rhetorical.

May I borrow it?
I'll bring it right back...

[mstriumph]

................ If I was a Palestinian who watched everything I created regularly get smashed to rubble at every time Israel's leaders felt like it,
..........................

you mean "every time my 'side' broke a ceasefire"? or "every time a fanatic, working in my name, blew up a busful of Israeli schoolkids"?

Violence begets violence, and nobody likes a bully.

you are right --- and to me the bullies in that particular situation are those on the arab side doing the shooting and killing from inside otherwise civilian enclaves .... hiding behind women and children .............. and NOT the ones in israeli uniforms doing their best to stop them in an impossible situation

let the bastards come out from behind their innocent human shields and fight like honorable people ..... except, of course, the fact they are hiding there in the first place rather puts the lie to them being honorable people in any way, shape or form.

it seems to be 'fashionable' to knock the Israelies ..... didn't think YOU'd be one to follow the common herd, mr Hitcher ...... i'm a tad disappointed in you.

[Big Dave]

It is now.

What a great phrase:enigmatically rhetorical.

May I borrow it?
I'll bring it right back...

Stoically tragic.

[SARGE]

Western Nations contravene that convention all the time.

lets just take this one at a time...

How many pictures of captured Iraqi Soldiers did you see published in the two Gulf Wars? Not only does it breach the Geneva Convention, it's something Western Politicians/Media went ballistic about when the shoe was on the other foot.

how many pictures of Iraqi soldiers did you see where they were receiving food and medical treatment?

What about the use of physical restraints on prisoners? (Again summat the West is very hypocritical about).

yep...sneaky fucks like that im damn sure gonna hog-tie

How many US soldiers have you seen using shot guns?

yeas.. guilty.. i carried a Mossberg 5500 door breaching shotgun..00 buckshot 3" magnum high brass.. loved that gun (incedentllly.. i ALSO carried 40mm buckshot rounds for my M203..nothing says "Welcome to Hell" like 40 00 buck pellets coming through a door..)

What about Guantanamo Bay? If it doesn't breach the Geneva Convention, it falls foul of habeas corpus...and probably breaches both.

but at least the prisoners at Gitmo still have a head to bitch about it with..




hard to believe some people are actually defending these pricks...


no .. we CANT all just get along.. deal with it..

[aewilliam]

Now you're starting to make sense.
The fight was originally religious but has denigrated into religion, politics and economics. It is a fight with roots 600 years old, but is still fundamentally about the schism in the Church.

(of Guiness if you would like...i actually like the stuff!)

The second part is pure doctrine though.
Of course you're going to tell me that Christians who kill aren't true followers, but you would say that, wouldn't you? It's just that if I were a cynical man I would have to note that there are an awful lot of these violent heretics (including most of the religious right in the US).

This is what I would say - If Jesus met these "violent heretics (including most of the religious right in the US)" would they really bve able to say to him "I am doing this for you God! Not for the money, not for the power, not for the pride and nationlism, but for the love of you and the good of the world"?
And would the terrorists, the doers and the thinkers, who CALL themselves "Muslim", be able to say the same to Allah, Mohammed, or Jesus? I think not...

[mstriumph]

...............some of the first terrorists in the region were Jewish (look up the Stern Gang) who were responsible for some very indiscriminate slaughter - ref. The King David Hotel bombing.

yup - killed one of me rellies a bit dead, they did.

[Oscar]

you mean "every time my 'side' broke a ceasefire"? or "every time a fanatic, working in my name, blew up a busful of Israeli schoolkids"?


you are right --- and to me the bullies in that particular situation are those on the arab side doing the shooting and killing from inside otherwise civilian enclaves .... hiding behind women and children .............. and NOT the ones in israeli uniforms doing their best to stop them in an impossible situation

You're right, those Israelis should have the right to protect the land that their families have had for generations...err...um...well, a generation, anyway...shit..

...sorry...I'll try that again...

You're right, those Israelis should have the right to protect the land that they stole at the point of a gun...damn

..opps, that don't work...try again..

You're right, those Israelis should have the right to protect the land that was in their families for generations, before they abandoned it for 2000 years, and then took back (after ejecting the new residents) using some Old Testament hokum and a contradictory UN resolution...bugger

...jeez...the truth is hard...

[Oscar]

Stoically tragic.

That one's going straight to the pool room..

[Oscar]

lets just take this one at a time...



how many pictures of Iraqi soldiers did you see where they were receiving food and medical treatment?




yep...sneaky fucks like that im damn sure gonna hog-tie





yeas.. guilty.. i carried a Mossberg 550 door breaching shotgun..00 buckshot 3" magnum high brass.. loved that gun




but at least the prisoners at Gitmo still have a head to bitch about it with..




hard to believe some people are actually defending these pricks...


no .. we CANT all just get along.. deal with it..

Great - so ignorant, uneducated Arabs have to abide by the Geneva Convention, but we don't have to worry about the bits we don't like?

That's the whole point - we're supposed to be better than them.
No wonder we're losing this war.

[SARGE]

Great - so ignorant, uneducated Arabs have to abide by the Geneva Convention, but we don't have to worry about the bits we don't like?

That's the whole point - we're supposed to be better than them.
No wonder we're losing this war.

nope.. we are "losing" this war in the Left-Wing media only.. IED's inIraq have dropped dramatically..Afghanistan was left by the by so thats seeing an upsurge..


as far as being "Better" than our enemy.. ..give EVERYONE the same rulebook.. i say we try thier rules for a few days..

war is hell...let the good times roll..

[Oscar]

(of Guiness if you would like...i actually like the stuff!)


This is what I would say - If Jesus met these "violent heretics (including most of the religious right in the US)" would they really bve able to say to him "I am doing this for you God! Not for the money, not for the power, not for the pride and nationlism, but for the love of you and the good of the world"?
And would the terrorists, the doers and the thinkers, who CALL themselves "Muslim", be able to say the same to Allah, Mohammed, or Jesus? I think not...

All the religious nutters would justify themselves with some text or another.
Unfortunately the real dangerous nutters, like OBL are doing it for their God.
OBL had more money and power than a thousand other men and gave it up to follow his God (and his God is probably your God, if prevailing thinking is to be believed - Allah = Yaweh/Jehovah = God)

[mstriumph]

You're right, those Israelis should have the right to protect the land that their families have had for generations...err...um...well, a generation, anyway...shit..

...sorry...I'll try that again...

You're right, those Israelis should have the right to protect the land that they stole at the point of a gun...damn

..opps, that don't work...try again..

You're right, those Israelis should have the right to protect the land that was in their families for generations, before they abandoned it for 2000 years, and then took back (after ejecting the new residents) using some Old Testament hokum and a contradictory UN resolution...bugger

...jeez...the truth is hard...

you mean 'the land that, in the most recent generation, they either bought from the then-current owners or took possession of when it was abandoned by the then-current owners in response to a pledge from their arab bretheren that they would "drive the israelies into the sea" ...?'

but i digress
my post had nothing much to do with ownership - more with my support for the right of israel [or you, or me, or whomever] to fight back when attacked, my distain for so-called guerillas [or whatever] who prefer to do their fighting hiding behind the skirts of others of my gender and a general dislike for the current practice of people following whichever whimsical knocking campaign happens to be flavour of the fortnight

sorry for any misunderstanding ...

[Oscar]

nope.. we are "losing" this war in the Left-Wing media only.. IED's inIraq have dropped dramatically..Afghanistan was left by the by so thats seeing an upsurge..


as far as being "Better" than our enemy.. ..give EVERYONE the same rulebook.. i say we try thier rules for a few days..

war is hell...let the good times roll..

I'd like to believe that.
There are too many holes for them to crawl into - Chechnya, Pakistan, Indonesia etc - it's a Global Game of Whack-a-Mole with Semtex.

We have to be better or we can't win. Every time the IDF sticks a hellfire into the back of a Palestinian ambulance, hundreds of new bombers are created..