Abolish 70kph learners rule

**gixxer-king** · 10th January 2009, 10:59

yea i love that bit, its either safe or its not. argh anyways just ask for a special exemption to go straight to your full from learners. saves dicking about.

**mister.koz** · 10th January 2009, 11:01

Originally Posted by Slyer

I've done over 6000k's on a bike and I'm still not allowed to go the same speed as everyone else.
Why don't cars have to stick to to 70kph on their learners?

Car drivers have to have an experienced driver in the car with them, its not possible to do that really on a bike hehe

**mister.koz** · 10th January 2009, 11:31

Originally Posted by gixxer-king

yea i love that bit, its either safe or its not. argh anyways just ask for a special exemption to go straight to your full from learners. saves dicking about.

I looked into that but sadly this sort of thing usually comes with restrictions that stop people from riding RR's.... boned that idea for me cause i already had my zx6rr.

**WhatThe???** · 10th January 2009, 11:52

Originally Posted by samgab

Nah, this is a funny little caveat. The speed limit of the road doesn't drop to 70 when you're on your learner's, the speed limit stays the same. Rather, it's a condition of your license that you don't exceed 70. So you don't get a speeding ticket, you get a $400 fine for breaching the conditions of learner's license; but if you're doing 100 in a 100 zone, you're not actually breaking the speed limit per say by 30kms. Get it? It's weird, I know.

Sound's like you're a safe responsible rider though. Keep it up

ahh righto cheers

im easily confused lol.

I try...would help if cars did the same but we all know thats not going to happen

**mister.koz** · 10th January 2009, 11:56

Originally Posted by WhatThe???

ahh righto cheers

im easily confused lol.

I try...would help if cars did the same but we all know thats not going to happen

Hey mischief

just give cars lots of room, you will be sweet.

**gixxer-king** · 10th January 2009, 16:43

Originally Posted by mister.koz

I looked into that but sadly this sort of thing usually comes with restrictions that stop people from riding RR's.... boned that idea for me cause i already had my zx6rr.

na, keep hassling and eventually (like all govt departments) its less work for them to say ok fine whatever then to keep replying to your letters

**Ixion** · 10th January 2009, 16:51

Originally Posted by Slyer

I've done over 6000k's on a bike and I'm still not allowed to go the same speed as everyone else.
Why don't cars have to stick to to 70kph on their learners?

Wow ! Really ? 6000 kilometres? Truely? I wouldn't have thought anyone could have done that great a distance on a bike. I agree, after 6000km, it's hardly as if there could be anything else left to learn.

I hope I get to that state one day. But cheer up, untill I get there you can at least take consolation in the fact that you go faster than me.

**Slyer** · 10th January 2009, 17:01

Originally Posted by Ixion

Wow ! Really ? 6000 kilometres? Truely? I wouldn't have thought anyone could have done that great a distance on a bike. I agree, after 6000km, it's hardly as if there could be anything else left to learn.

I hope I get to that state one day. But cheer up, untill I get there you can at least take consolation in the fact that you go faster than me.

6000k's is not a lot I know. I'm not saying I deserve a license to ride more than a 250cc or anything like that I'm just saying I deserve to ride at 100kph.
I still have a lot to learn but I don't see how avoiding the open road is supposed to help me learn.

**samgab** · 10th January 2009, 17:41

Originally Posted by Slyer

6000k's is not a lot I know. I'm not saying I deserve a license to ride more than a 250cc or anything like that I'm just saying I deserve to ride at 100kph.
I still have a lot to learn but I don't see how avoiding the open road is supposed to help me learn.

It's only a very temporary thing. Just go get your restricted. It's really easy.

**FJRider** · 10th January 2009, 17:54

Originally Posted by Slyer

6000k's is not a lot I know. I'm not saying I deserve a license to ride more than a 250cc or anything like that I'm just saying I deserve to ride at 100kph.
I still have a lot to learn but I don't see how avoiding the open road is supposed to help me learn.

Even if you think you deserve to ride at 100 km's/hr , the law says you are not allowed to.
You have a lot to learn because you are a learner...
Get your restricted...

**Slyer** · 10th January 2009, 18:14

I know what the law says...
You still have to wait 6 months.

**Brooke** · 10th January 2009, 18:14

Picture this, you are on your learners, you are riding to work. One country town to another. You are only llowed to travel 70km and a truck is allowed to travel 90. Truck (and trailer) gets sick of travelling behind you doing your legal limit so passes you.... on a corner!!!! I don't really think it is safety at all. Accident waiting to happen if you ask me!

**Ixion** · 10th January 2009, 18:58

Originally Posted by Slyer

6000k's is not a lot I know. I'm not saying I deserve a license to ride more than a 250cc or anything like that I'm just saying I deserve to ride at 100kph.
I still have a lot to learn but I don't see how avoiding the open road is supposed to help me learn.

Yes. I was a tad harsh. I apologise. FWIW, I don't agree with the 70kph thing.

But, bear in mind, before they introduced the GDLS it was worse. On the old Provisional licence you were limited to 50kph. So 70 was a relaxation. (Of course, no one took any notice of the 50 limit eiether. Though if the neighbourhood snake noticed you, your full test could be a bit tougher)

I guess the problem is, that 50kph was so low that there was no way anyone would venture onto a motorway or open road (which I guess was the intent : and back then there were bugger all motorways anyway). 70kph is fast enough to make the motorway tempting.

**FJRider** · 10th January 2009, 21:16

Originally Posted by Brooke

Picture this, you are on your learners, you are riding to work. One country town to another. You are only llowed to travel 70km and a truck is allowed to travel 90. Truck (and trailer) gets sick of travelling behind you doing your legal limit so passes you.... on a corner!!!! I don't really think it is safety at all. Accident waiting to happen if you ask me!

Then pull over and let him pass.... Don't, and he may kill you trying to pass... Pretty simple really. Live, or risk death...you choose. If you are watching your mirrors, you'll see him coming...