sic sad bartards in Hamilton

[Quasievil]

i no where u live as i walk past to chartwell square thru the alleyway sometimes

Okay now youre scaring me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how come ya havent dropped in to say hello then :spudwhat:

[Krusti]

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.

Know what you mean...I know now how my father felt when I crashed cars every three months for a while. Lucky to have lived through it in hindsight. Dont ya just hate that sick feeling in ya stomach when they are out, hoping all will be OK.

Parenting sux at times!

[flyin]

And it will go down as another speeding fatality. Where is the category for gross inane stupidity!

Originally Posted by alucard_draken
No I havn't seen many wrecks but I guess it can happen like that. I dont know, I just think all these idiot boy racers should be kicked off the road. all they really do is risk lives. if it was just thier own that would be fine but they risk passengers in thier car, in other cars, walking on the side of the road, even peaple who just happen to be sitting in thier own homes. And peaple say bikers are bad. Why doesn't the ACC try to tax these dickheads off the road?

This is the stupid shite that gets twisted into statistics and fed back to the public to promote the revenue collecting speeding blitz and makes people hate "boy racers"

well we know for a start he was DRUNK, no more is really needed after that but it usualy gets played down,
how about they check th car - bald tyres and cut springs perhaps..........

any way you look at it this little priks gunna get off light while making it worse for every other road user!

[Coldkiwi]

read in the paper this morning that the Father had put a 10pm curfew on his daughters coming home but that his wife had renegotiated with the girls to make it 2am. Apparently they thought it was very out of character for them not to call to be picked up so it sounds like they were fairly responsible.
I don't have kids but while irresponsible parents really sicken me, I think we need to remember that kids DO grow up and demand more freedom and that parents can't be thre at every minute of the day as teenagers spread their wings (nor should they be or we'd all be mummy's boys/girls).
All I think the parents could have done in this situation is to make sure their girls knew that it was never too much hassle to pick them up and that they loved them. What better way is there to get kids to make the right choices for themselves?

I have great admiration for the father forgiving the driver already. Who was it that thought 'loving the sinner and hating the sin' is just philosophic sophistry?

[Waylander]

If that is correct and you did see the car prior to the crash, you do need to go to the police and report it mate.
About the head smack, good on ya

When I went passed them they weren't doing anything really dangerous except maybe playin the music a bit loud and yellin at each other to be able to hold a conversations. And I didn't actually see the crash so I wouldn't be able to help the police much. If I had seen something I would go and tell them though.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Did you guys catch how the girls father has already forgiven the driver of the car!?!
That's a big call so close to the accident, reckon it would be hard for me to do the same.

This is the compassion that is missing from society we live in today. Not to say we should not punish and work to resolve the situation but forgiveness is better than hatred. Forgiveness will not eat you up and make you as bad as them. Good comment bear.

[PhilBilly]

Some of the boy racers get a car that mum an dad pay for, get it worked up and end up crashing it few weeks later as they lack the skills of handeling a car with a lot of power. I see them in welly going all over the show just missing other cars and people. On sunday i over took a bus that had stopped on Adelaide rd by Mc Donalds then i look to me right and a boyracer was right beside me about 40cm from my bike. He decided to race past the bus when it started to move and had to go on the centre line, he continued weaving in an out towards Newtown. Was going to chase him but too much traffic at the time.

[denill]

it was the mohaka river and they didn't lose it on the bridge, they went over the bank long before the bridge, they were drunk and stoned and the driver had just come out of jail for previous drunk driving offences. There were small kids onboard also. Some of the people were known to us.

My recollection is that they punched a hole in the side of the bridge, Napier end on L/h heading to Taupo. The hole in the bridge was in such a position that the occupants and bus had a free fall direct to the bottom. Not quite the 'trip' they were expecting and the way down would be an extreme "Oh, bugger" Toyota add..........
The real piss off is that they had little kids in the bus (and a dog that survived).

Yeah, with fuckwits like these types (in this thread) how can the road toll be zero??????????

Life sets it's own balances and scales.

[Paul in NZ]

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.

Yeah. Tell me about it! Been there done that out the other side (thank goodness) They never tell you about that stuff at Plunket do they Toads..

Teenage girls are damn sneaky!

[flyin]

Some of the boy racers get a car that mum an dad pay for, get it worked up and end up crashing it few weeks later as they lack the skills of handeling a car with a lot of power. I see them in welly going all over the show just missing other cars and people. On sunday i over took a bus that had stopped on Adelaide rd by Mc Donalds then i look to me right and a boyracer was right beside me about 40cm from my bike. He decided to race past the bus when it started to move and had to go on the centre line, he continued weaving in an out towards Newtown. Was going to chase him but too much traffic at the time.

so you were passing in the same lane as him on his left????

so what was it made this guy a boyracer??? other than the fact he couldnt drive??
what if had never even heard of the carpark meets??
if some one stole his mags would he qualify for the lable??

some old people get powerfull cars on finance then crash them too (like th dude who sold paradise got himself a ferrari then touched th gas on the first corner and hello lampost!!)
maybe thats why us bikers are onlly allowed 250's on our L's.... go on start a petition to say everyone on learners can only drive 1.3L starlets...........

im not trying to defend any of the stupid driving done by these irrisponsible youths but stop labeling everyone with mags a boyracer please!!!
i am also involved with car forums as i race and theres as many complaints about stupid irrisponsible cage drivers on there as here..... nealry

If you had chased this fellow would that not make you just as bad as him??? the fact you wanted to risk your life to look cool in front of a "boyracer" or even if it was to look cool in fron of his m8s, possibly just to make you feel like your big today doesnt that make you a street racer (there even RACING involved, im sure you would have accelerated unnecesarily (a criminal offence under the "boyracer act" )

[igor]

My recollection is that they punched a hole in the side of the bridge, Napier end on L/h heading to Taupo. The hole in the bridge was in such a position that the occupants and bus had a free fall direct to the bottom. Not quite the 'trip' they were expecting and the way down would be an extreme "Oh, bugger" Toyota add..........
The real piss off is that they had little kids in the bus (and a dog that survived).

Yeah, with fuckwits like these types (in this thread) how can the road toll be zero??????????

Life sets it's own balances and scales.

yeah it was the mohaka, my mistake tere but i agree that i saw the bright orange safety fence not long after and it ws on the bridge proper as denill states.

[Quasievil]

Apparently they have found the 3rd girls body, people on the Waipa Delta (resturant) saw her body last night while on a dinner cruise.
the police recovered her.

Bloody sad is all I can say

[What?]

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.

I wasn't having a swipe at those particular parents, more a social comment. Seems to me that too many parents consider 14 years old to be "grown up". The kids just want to do what their mates are doing, right or wrong. Sadly, this is where it ends up sometimes. Sadder, the kids don't learn from it - because they are kids.