Rob Gilchrist of Christchurch - you are scum

[SARGE]

I would like to say on behalf of the New Zealand police that your anti-New Zealand statements have been noticed. Please report calmly to the nearest police station and co-operate on arrival. Resisting arrest or assault on a police officer will result a $150 fine and a new law regarding American citizens and child abuse. Thank you,

Senior Admin NZ Govt. -Wabakus

what??!!..no wet bus ticket?

[James Deuce]

It's a dishrag, Jarhead, I changed the rules.

[wbks]

Its too bad you aren't asian, or we could let you stay and work on a winery picking grapes...

[Fatt Max]

I wonder if there are any one spying on this web site........ watching Reading gathering info on us.

Fuck I hope not....i've just nicked a brand new pie warmer from the dairy.

I was also involved in a big fight at the fish and chip shop last night, three bags of chips got assaulted and 2 snapper got battered.

THEY are everywhere......

[SARGE]

Fuck I hope not....i've just nicked a brand new pie warmer from the dairy.

I was also involved in a big fight at the fish and chip shop last night, three bags of chips got assaulted and 2 snapper got battered.

THEY are everywhere......

ive been sayin that for years...

[davereid]

I dunno.. some girls are pretty kinky...

Hehe... thats why we luv 'em...

but all I said was Rochelle was an animal activist

[SixPackBack]

Makes you think!............Big brother undoubtedly watches KB very closely. Police officers regularly attend meetings and events and cosy up to senior KB members. I would like to think as members of the community they are doing the same as us-enjoying motorcycling and the associated camaraderie, however my own experiences coupled with the cartwright report and cases like rob gilchrist [absence of capitals intended!] leave me highly suspicious.

• The police are not to be trusted [much like any gang].
• Avoid disappointment and assume they are not acting in your best interest.
• The police would have us contained within a totalitarian regime given half the chance.
• Police corruption and 'white lies' are rife.

While it has been said before the majority of the force are genuine good buggers doing the right thing, the percentage of dodgy fuckers is high. More disturbing is the reluctance for coppers to speak up against each other. Proof that this is still a serious problem comes from the schollum-rickards case and the deafening silence from the usually vocal KB coppers club when 'dodgy coppers are discussed.

[The Lone Rider]

Some of Rob's friends/associates do use this site.

[Hitcher]

Let's keep things in perspective here. The Police are not interested in the activities of clubs and societies like the Taita Machine Knitters Club, Silverstream Lions or the Brown Owl Scouts. They only appear to be interested in "organisations" that condone indeed encourage criminal behaviour as a way of gaining publicity for their wacko causes.

Militant vegans are truly a worry, particularly the way they distort the true intent of their animal rights activities so that people link them with the SPCA, which they are not. They don't run animal shelters or find new homes for abandoned pets. Instead they vandalise legal commercial farming operations, destroy property associated with legal scientific research and harrass duck shooters. Criminals like this deserve to be monitored, in the same way that Black Power and the Mongrel Mob are no doubt monitored.

People who abuse the freedoms that our society provides should not complain if our society believes they are not to be trusted.

[trustme]

Thank you Hitcher, are these nut jobs so naive as to think there won't be a loose watch kept over the more extreme fringe elements. Should Tama & his lot have been ignored, was the attack on the the Blenheim tracking station a criminal activity or valid protest, how many million did that stunt cost YOU. I seem to remember an animal rights activist being found guilty of protest offences this year . These clowns think their actions are above the law, this is not the case, their actions attract scrutiny from the law because they have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the law. Well golly you fuckwits. The cops will use what ever means, it ain't tiddly winks

[Skyryder]

I believe that the Police are completely within their rights to monitor the activities of "activist" groups -- particularly those whose modus operandi involves breaking the law, particularly laws relating to the safety and well-being of people going about their lawful business.

There is absolutey no right of the police to monitor the private lives of members who belong to a lawfull organisation. I know of no protest group that is classed as a criminal orgainsation active in New Zealand. If the police or security sevices have a belief that a person or persons are engaged in unlawfull activites then this is another issue, but how their activites in the bedroom is of national security I do not know unless it is for the reason of possible blackmail.

I see Collins has asked Broad for an explanation. It will be interesting to see how this develops................if indeed it is allowed to???????????????


Skyryder

[MisterD]

I see Collins has asked Broad for an explanation. It will be interesting to see how this develops................if indeed it is allowed to???????????????

I would imagine that Collins has a good chance of finding two things she'd be quite keen on...1) An excuse to get shot of Broad, a Clark patsy if ever there was one and 2)a huge embarrassment for the current leader and deputy of the opposition.

[Skyryder]

I would imagine that Collins has a good chance of finding two things she'd be quite keen on...1) An excuse to get shot of Broad, a Clark patsy if ever there was one and 2)a huge embarrassment for the current leader and deputy of the opposition.

Probably right. I see there is some speculation just when Rees learnt of this.

I suspect that if this was in her knowledge before the election then the Nats will want to exploit this this and in my opinion this is where it is most likely to go.

This would be a shame as the ethics involved, not to mention the damage that this may have caused lawfull citizens of their private lives, will be glossed over.


Skyryder

[Hitcher]

There is absolutey no right of the police to monitor the private lives of members who belong to a lawfull organisation. I know of no protest group that is classed as a criminal orgainsation active in New Zealand. If the police or security sevices have a belief that a person or persons are engaged in unlawfull activites then this is another issue, but how their activites in the bedroom is of national security I do not know unless it is for the reason of possible blackmail.

The Police, I believe, have every right to monitor the activities of individuals and groups who they believe to be involved in criminal activities. Isn't that what we pay them for?

And, to revisit one of my perennial hobby horses, what are some of these "organisations" anyway? Many aren't registered bodies or legal entities. Many are just one person and a word processor. Why then do they get so much coverage? (rhetorical question).

As for this nonsense promulgated today by the Green Party, if they have members involved in criminal acts, then why shouldn't they be investigated by the Police? Being a political party represented in Parliament shouldn't put that Party or its members above the law.

Methinks they protest too much.

[slowpoke]

I believe that the Police are completely within their rights to monitor the activities of "activist" groups -- particularly those whose modus operandi involves breaking the law, particularly laws relating to the safety and well-being of people going about their lawful business.

What constitutes an "activist" group? The political party lobbying for change? The community organisation trying to amend local by-laws? The motorcyclists taking over the motorway protesting against wire rope barriers?

If they are breaking the law arrest them and follow due process, if not move on to real crimes that are happening every minute.

I don't want to single particular groups out, but animal "rights" groups and Greenpeace are amongst the worst offenders.

Or just the most publicised. And why the emphasis on the word "rights"? You don't think animals should have any?




Democracy will generally make decisions somewhere between the extreme views on a particular issue. Democracy generally also makes decisions that are usually in the best interest of a majority of its citizens. Disaffected two-percenters who condone violence and destruction of property are criminals, pure and simple. The general public needs to be protected from them, and I applaud all efforts the Police take to uphold the laws that tree-hugging whackos and others have no respect for.

You are right, we should have arrested all those anti-Vietnam protestors, and anti-Apartheid protestors, Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela (oh wait they did, didn't they?) etc etc so many laws broken so little accomplished for it.....yeah right.

Democracy is only as good as the people governed by it and administering it. Unfortunately our governments, pollies and people are driven by self promotion and self interest, so unless they are directly affected by something or can see an "up side" for themselves they couldn't give a fuck. Hence small groups of people are left to battle percieved injustices on their own after the established powers have ignored it.

Whilst I don't agree with all their methods I'm glad there are people around with enough intestinal fortitude to continue seeking a change for the better long after most people would have given up.