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    Pursuit Policy

    In another thread you've probably come across this link http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3182837a11,00.html where the dumb f*** with no helmet did a runner and ended up dead - suicide I reckon. But the bottom of the story contains this bit of information which may or may not have been brought to anyones attention before:

    New police policy states that:
    Public and staff safety takes priority over immediate apprehension of a suspect.
    Officers must decide if a pursuit can be justified and work with their shift supervisor to re-evaluate the safety risk throughout the pursuit. Supervisors at police communications centres have authority to order that a pursuit be abandoned.
    When abandoning chase, officers must immediately turn off lights and sirens, reduce speed to within the limit, then stop on the roadside. All police cars involved must stop.

    All of which goes against everything I've ever experienced over the years, so I'm hoping that being a new policy fresh in the mind of the troops some of them might actually pay attention to it.

    Now come on - abuse me for being irresponsible. I'm just making sure those who have an interest in this area are aware of it. Those that don't, don't contribute.
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    Right-Oh

    I put this to you. Why should the cops abandon a pursuit?

    Obviously if it poses a danger to innocents, but if you get killed running from the cops, they should not be held accountable. They're doing what they're paid to do.

    What's next? Sue the armed offenders for taking out an armed bank robber acting menacingly?

    Maybe we just let them walk away and we'll try and get 'em next time. I don't think so.
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    what pisses me off with that article was the fact they are aiming the whole thing at cops... what about the fact the stupid prick wasn't wearing a helmet, didn't stop and then fuckin binned????
    was he on the piss??? riding about at 4am, not willing to stop for a "no helmet" fine, musta been upto something else, i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by madboy
    New police policy states that:
    Public and staff safety takes priority over immediate apprehension of a suspect.
    Officers must decide if a pursuit can be justified and work with their shift supervisor to re-evaluate the safety risk throughout the pursuit. Supervisors at police communications centres have authority to order that a pursuit be abandoned.
    When abandoning chase, officers must immediately turn off lights and sirens, reduce speed to within the limit, then stop on the roadside. All police cars involved must stop.
    As this comes from a newspaper I would give it very little weight.
    Also "reduce speed to within the limit, then stop on the roadside. All police cars involved must stop." would be worded "All police cars involved must stop at the roadside." as "reduce speed to within the limit, then" is superfluous.

    My 5 cents. Cough up.

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    I'm not sure its a new policy it just seems to be getting a lot of air time lately, I know a guy who is a traffic cop and he said that whenever they are persuing some one they have to be in contact with base and they will keep asking him what the road and traffic conditions are like. But everyone loves a chase so they just say the conditions are sweet and keep going
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk
    My 5 cents. Cough up.
    have those prices gone up too..?? I thought it was always 2¢..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    have those prices gone up too..?? I thought it was always 2¢..
    You got 2 cents?

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    The way I see it, if you are running from the cops, and you stuff up (i.e. injure or kill yourself), it's "tough titties!". But, if a pursuing officer is told to discontinue the persuit and he/she does not, then lynch 'em I say!

    Also, if someone doing a runner wipes themself out, there's less chance (no chance actually) of them wiping ME out in the future... Am I heartless for thinking that way?

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    Riding without a helmet means he was on borrowed time anyway. Another defective gene removed from the pool.

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    Further to the cops pulling over and stopping - I heard they had to stop for a full 2 minutes.

    So why didn't the guy stop? I reckon that's the question that has got to be asked here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneChucker
    The way I see it, if you are running from the cops, and you stuff up (i.e. injure or kill yourself), it's "tough titties!". But, if a pursuing officer is told to discontinue the persuit and he/she does not, then lynch 'em I say!

    Also, if someone doing a runner wipes themself out, there's less chance (no chance actually) of them wiping ME out in the future... Am I heartless for thinking that way?
    Out of this thread this is the only post that makes any sene at all. we would never get away with not paying tickets, the courts dont write off fines anymore.
    if ya run and get wasted tuf luk.
    I have dun a few runners over the years but i know full well it could all end in tears/blood shed. but i have decided to take the risk, other times i have simply pulled over and payed the fine. it all comes dwn to judgement! not just on the part of the person doing the runner but the coppers as well.

    Man what was he thinking trying to out run the coppers on 100 year old technology.....and no hemet....... what a dick (darwin award for Chch??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear
    So why didn't the guy stop? I reckon that's the question that has got to be asked here.
    Why would he?
    He da man! He got away from the cops so he's the 'best-est'.

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    Ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    I put this to you. Why should the cops abandon a pursuit?

    Obviously if it poses a danger to innocents, but if you get killed running from the cops, they should not be held accountable. They're doing what they're paid to do.

    What's next? Sue the armed offenders for taking out an armed bank robber acting menacingly?

    Maybe we just let them walk away and we'll try and get 'em next time. I don't think so.
    Ditto !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk
    You got 2 cents?
    yahuu... in my draw at work, I have 2¢.. (one kiwi from '84 and on US from'86 - still 2¢ tho)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    Riding without a helmet means he was on borrowed time anyway. Another defective gene removed from the pool.
    "You stupid idiot. Not wearing a helmet? You know if you come off at speed, like if you panic and hoon off when you see the disco lights behind you, you could do yourself a serious injury??. What a dumb f*ck..."
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