Gun Poll

[short-circuit]

That's a specious argument against fixing them, however.



Have a read of the Arms Code; all the relevant info's within.

1. I'm not sure they need "fixed".

2. Just answer the question - What is it you can't you do now and you feel you should be able to?

[Usarka]

Like whom exactly?


And even if this were the case, are you suggesting the answer is in increasing the amount of nutters going around with guns?

Have you not heard of a little place called the united states?

Not sure which part of my post you are asking of whom so I'll skip that one.....

You cannot assume ones stance on gun control from a simple yes vote on this poll.

I would be the first to protest against a law allowing this to happen. But if it were reality then I'd do all I could to mitigate the resulting risks to myself. If there weren't a critical mass of people willing to carry weapons the law wouldn't have passed in the first place.

[short-circuit]

Not sure which part of my post you are asking of whom so I'll skip that one.....

You cannot assume ones stance on gun control from a simple yes vote on this poll.

I would be the first to protest against a law allowing this to happen. But if it were reality then I'd do all I could to mitigate the resulting risks to myself. If there weren't a critical mass of people willing to carry weapons the law wouldn't have passed in the first place.

What's with the hypotheticals? You would either carry round a handgun if the law allowed you to or you wouldn't. Otherwise you're discussing a separate issue in which case you're involving yourself in the wrong thread

[Usarka]

What's with the hypotheticals? You either want to carry round a handgun or you don't. Otherwise you're discussing a separate issue in which case you're involving yourself in the wrong thread

Huh? We live in NZ where it is illegal to carry firearms so the poll itself is hypothetical.

The question was, quote " Would you carry a handgun if the law allowed you too"

And my answer is YES.

Doesn't mean I want to, hence why I live in NZ and not the USA.

[short-circuit]

Huh? We live in NZ where it is illegal to carry firearms so the poll itself is hypothetical.

The question was, quote " Would you carry a handgun if the law allowed you too"

And my answer is YES.

Doesn't mean I want to, hence why I live in NZ and not the USA.

I take your point. And I agree, Fatt Max should have eaten her baby

[carver]

half of you n00bs couldn't shoot for shit anyways, especially with high cal stuff.

[portokiwi]

Carver...... Carver.... Carver, Why do you talk such crap. You dont know half of the people here and I am sure that if you were the target they would improve their aim just to have you for practice

[davereid]

Have you not heard of a little place called the united states?

With regard to gun laws, the U.S. should really be treated as 52 countries, as some states have very restrictive gun laws, while others have very liberal laws.

But, talking averages the U.S. is a much safer country than N.Z.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-total-victims

Crime Statistics Total crime victims (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Australia: 30.1%
#2 New Zealand: 29.4%
#3 United Kingdom: 26.4%
#4 Netherlands: 25.2%
#5 Sweden: 24.7%
#6 Italy: 24.6%
#7 Canada: 23.8%
#8 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 23.2%
#9 Malta: 23.1%
#10 Denmark: 23%
#11 Poland: 22.7%
#12 France: 21.4%
#13 Belgium: 21.4%
#14 Slovenia: 21.2%
#15 United States: 21.1%
#16 Finland: 19.1%
#17 Austria: 18.8%
#18 Switzerland: 18.2%
#19 Portugal: 15.5%
#20 Japan: 15.2%

[carver]

Carver...... Carver.... Carver, Why do you talk such crap. You dont know half of the people here and I am sure that if you were the target they would improve their aim just to have you for practice

cause i used to shoot handguns alot, i know what its like to start, especially trying to combat the bodies natural reflexes.

[davereid]

Rapes by Country

#1 New Zealand: 1.3%
#2 Austria: 1.2%
#3 Finland: 1.1%
#4 Sweden: 1.1%
#5 Australia: 1%
#6 United Kingdom: 0.9%
#7 Netherlands: 0.8%
#8 Canada: 0.8%
#9 Slovenia: 0.8%
#10 France: 0.7%
#11 Italy: 0.6%
#12 Switzerland: 0.6%
#13 Denmark: 0.4%
#14 United States: 0.4%
#15 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 0.3%
#16 Belgium: 0.3%
#17 Poland: 0.2%
#18 Portugal: 0.2%
#19 Japan: 0.1%
#20 Malta: 0.1%

[davereid]

Assault victims
Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 3%
#2 United Kingdom: 2.8%
#3 Australia: 2.4%
#4 New Zealand: 2.4%
#5 Canada: 2.3%
#6 Finland: 2.1%
#7 Denmark: 1.4%
#8 France: 1.4%
#9 Belgium: 1.2%
#10 United States: 1.2%
#11 Sweden: 1.2%
#12 Slovenia: 1.1%
#13 Malta: 1.1%
#14 Poland: 1.1%
#15 Netherlands: 1%
#16 Switzerland: 1%
#17 Austria: 0.8%
#18 Portugal: 0.4%
#19 Italy: 0.2%
#20 Japan: 0.1%
Weighted average: 1.4%



DEFINITION: People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population).

[portokiwi]

So that makes you the person that everyone should go to for safety lessons

[davereid]

Burglaries (per capita) (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.
Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Australia: 21.7454 per 1,000 people
#2 Dominica: 18.7892 per 1,000 people
#3 Denmark: 18.3299 per 1,000 people
#4 Estonia: 17.4576 per 1,000 people
#5 Finland: 16.7697 per 1,000 people
#6 New Zealand: 16.2763 per 1,000 people
#7 United Kingdom: 13.8321 per 1,000 people
#8 Poland: 9.46071 per 1,000 people
#9 Canada: 8.94425 per 1,000 people
#10 South Africa: 8.89764 per 1,000 people
#11 Montserrat: 8.24323 per 1,000 people
#12 Iceland: 8.11156 per 1,000 people
#13 Switzerland: 8.06303 per 1,000 people
#14 Slovenia: 7.93734 per 1,000 people
#15 Czech Republic: 7.24841 per 1,000 people
#16 Hungary: 7.15849 per 1,000 people
#17 United States: 7.09996 per 1,000 people
#18 France: 6.11634 per 1,000 people
#19 Ireland: 5.73755 per 1,000 people
#20 Netherlands: 5.55531 per 1,000 people
#21 Bulgaria: 5.29597 per 1,000 people
#22 Slovakia: 4.6984 per 1,000 people
#23 Zimbabwe: 4.54568 per 1,000 people
#24 Portugal: 4.47927 per 1,000 people
#25 Latvia: 4.31048 per 1,000 people
#26 Belarus: 3.13718 per 1,000 people
#27 Seychelles: 2.79598 per 1,000 people
#28 Lithuania: 2.55852 per 1,000 people
#29 Japan: 2.3269 per 1,000 people
#30 Uruguay: 1.63554 per 1,000 people
#31 Greece: 1.49035 per 1,000 people
#32 Chile: 1.44328 per 1,000 people
#33 Malaysia: 1.37407 per 1,000 people
#34 Mexico: 1.31521 per 1,000 people
#35 Hong Kong: 1.30004 per 1,000 people
#36 Mauritius: 1.28676 per 1,000 people
#37 Norway: 1.15328 per 1,000 people
#38 Romania: 0.954859 per 1,000 people
#39 Moldova: 0.894276 per 1,000 people
#40 Jamaica: 0.886696 per 1,000 people
#41 Zambia: 0.876043 per 1,000 people
#42 Tunisia: 0.762283 per 1,000 people
#43 Sri Lanka: 0.631248 per 1,000 people
#44 Spain: 0.591359 per 1,000 people
#45 Papua New Guinea: 0.472137 per 1,000 people
#46 Georgia: 0.403036 per 1,000 people
#47 Qatar: 0.347604 per 1,000 people
#48 Colombia: 0.31138 per 1,000 people
#49 Thailand: 0.205995 per 1,000 people
#50 India: 0.103027 per 1,000 people
#51 Korea, South: 0.0622315 per 1,000 people
#52 Armenia: 0.0308414 per 1,000 people
#53 Yemen: 0.00530709 per 1,000 people
#54 Saudi Arabia: 0.000416383 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 5.1 per 1,000 peo

[davereid]

Car thefts (per capita) (most recent) by countryRank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Australia: 6.92354 per 1,000 people
#2 Denmark: 5.92839 per 1,000 people
#3 United Kingdom: 5.6054 per 1,000 people
#4 New Zealand: 5.45031 per 1,000 people
#5 Norway: 5.08143 per 1,000 people
#6 France: 4.9713 per 1,000 people
#7 Canada: 4.88547 per 1,000 people
#8 Italy: 4.19755 per 1,000 people
#9 United States: 3.8795 per 1,000 people
#10 Ireland: 3.69796 per 1,000 people
#11 Spain: 3.33616 per 1,000 people
#12 Finland: 3.13823 per 1,000 people
#13 Portugal: 2.50123 per 1,000 people
#14 Japan: 2.43012 per 1,000 people
#15 Netherlands: 2.33559 per 1,000 people
#16 Malaysia: 2.33286 per 1,000 people
#17 Czech Republic: 2.3278 per 1,000 people
#18 South Africa: 2.25426 per 1,000 people
#19 Poland: 1.76518 per 1,000 people
#20 Estonia: 1.74194 per 1,000 people
#21 Bulgaria: 1.51423 per 1,000 people
#22 Mexico: 1.49526 per 1,000 people
#23 Lithuania: 1.44148 per 1,000 people
#24 Iceland: 1.30419 per 1,000 people
#25 Switzerland: 1.24836 per 1,000 people
#26 Uruguay: 1.19672 per 1,000 people
#27 Slovakia: 1.11821 per 1,000 people
#28 Dominica: 1.04304 per 1,000 people
#29 Germany: 1.00767 per 1,000 people
#30 Hungary: 1.0017 per 1,000 people
#31 Greece: 0.795463 per 1,000 people
#32 Colombia: 0.771407 per 1,000 people
#33 Slovenia: 0.702138 per 1,000 people
#34 Costa Rica: 0.597361 per 1,000 people
#35 Hong Kong: 0.406436 per 1,000 people
#36 Turkey: 0.214668 per 1,000 people
#37 Saudi Arabia: 0.210955 per 1,000 people
#38 Romania: 0.203583 per 1,000 people
#39 Russia: 0.182025 per 1,000 people
#40 Moldova: 0.174411 per 1,000 people
#41 Belarus: 0.166019 per 1,000 people
#42 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.148166 per 1,000 people
#43 Papua New Guinea: 0.137601 per 1,000 people
#44 Indonesia: 0.1201 per 1,000 people
#45 Tunisia: 0.116725 per 1,000 people
#46 Zimbabwe: 0.110353 per 1,000 people
#47 Jamaica: 0.0942982 per 1,000 people
#48 Zambia: 0.070325 per 1,000 people
#49 Ukraine: 0.0673234 per 1,000 people
#50 Georgia: 0.0521702 per 1,000 people
#51 Thailand: 0.0510392 per 1,000 people
#52 Yemen: 0.0396102 per 1,000 people
#53 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0316751 per 1,000 people
#54 Qatar: 0.028967 per 1,000 people
#55 Azerbaijan: 0.0135238 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 1.7 per 1,000 people

[Usarka]

Crime Statistics Total crime victims (most recent) by country
#2 New Zealand: 29.4%

Rapes by Country
#1 New Zealand: 1.3%

Assault victims
#4 New Zealand: 2.4%


Burglaries (per capita) (most recent) by country
#6 New Zealand: 16.2763 per 1,000 people

Remember, we don't know how lucky we are